Paola,
When you talk about studying the brain as a whole are you talking about a
live, functioning brain in situ, or a whole dead brain? (01)
PatC (02)
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> Thanks Clynch
>
> I understand what you say perfectly well, and you are right, I am not
> a neuroscientist
> I do respect your profession, and I am sure there is value in
> dissection but in my non expert view dissection can only study some
> physical aspects of the brain. (ie enable to better look at the
> individual bits) The 'logical' functions of the brain (the mental
> abilities) I dont think you can study by looking at the pieces
> Please correct me
>
> PDM
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 11:44 AM, clynch <clynch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > PDM,
> >
> > If you had ever seen a human brain in situ or on a dissecting plate
> and
> > looked at a section of the amygdala under an electron microscope, I
> doubt
> > you would have your opinion that the brain "should be studied as a
> whole".
> > This is like studying an orange seed from the outside of an unpeeled
> orange
> > or deducing behavior of an electron by looking at a piece of wood,
> only more
> > limiting.
> >
> > >From the discussions I have seen posted, I cannot deduce your area
> of
> > expertise, but one of mine is medicine and neuroendocrinology, and I
> assure
> > you are incorrect in this instance.
> >
> > Cecil Lynch
> >
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> > concept,is this a question?)
> >
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2007 7:57 AM, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > . Even if one were given a complete
> > > (dead) mammalian brain, there is no conceivable
> > > way to reconstruct all the neural connections in
> > > it, since the total cross-section of a neuron's
> > > end branchings greatly exceeds that of its axon,
> > > and these neurons are tightly packed in the
> > > cortex. Any way to 'take it apart' to find all
> > > the neurons, therefore, would of necessity
> > > involve breaking the connections which hold them
> > > together. Put another way: its impossible to
> > > assemble (or disassemble) a brain; it has to be
> > > grown.
> >
> > This is precisely why I think the brain should be studied as a whole,
> and
> > not in its puree or minced form.
> > Thats the only way the neural paths (folk. 'brainwave') can be
> observed,
> >
> > I hate to think like Frankenstein , but I bet you can induce some
> > level of passive activity in a coma brain by passing some tiny
> > frequencies. (not ac/dc I guess)
> > I ll have to remember to do that experiment next time I come across a
> coma
> >
> > <grin>
> >
> > PDM
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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