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Re: [ontolog-forum] Please thread the discussion

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From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:44 -0800
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Further ... (I should have mentioned earlier),    (01)

> [RRS] This is because he's using one of the non-compliant mail
> clients (GMail, apparently).    (02)

[ppy]  the gmail client is actually compliant ... the breaking of the
thread was done intentionally (as explained in my last message) and
not a result of gmail being non-conformant.    (03)

=ppy
--    (04)

On 11/6/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:03:20 -0800:
> > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 09:28, Peter Yim wrote:
> >> For those who weren't around the last time we cover this (and
> >> related) issues, you might want to check out the following:
> >>
> >> * an earlier thread at:
> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-03/msg00378.html ,
> >> and
> >>
> >> * how one can configure your mail client to put [ontolog-forum]
> >> traffic away (from your inbox), which would then allow you to 'reply'
> >> to the threads when you want to - see:
> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DealingWithMailingListTraffic
> >>
> >> Cheers.  =ppy
> >> --
>
> > How many people see Peter's reply in the same thread as the message to
> > which he replied (which was my reply to his first message)?
> >
> > I do not. This is because he's using one of the non-compliant mail
> > clients (GMail, apparently).
> >
> > Using a separate mailbox does not make threads work, nor does refraining
> > from using a mailbox prevent threading from working
> >
> > If the software that formulates the message's headers doesn't respect
> > the standard and include proper Message-Id and In-Reply-To headers,
> > something as simple as changing the subject (as Peter did in his latest
> > reply) will break threading (fallback threading basedon the Subject
> > header, i.e.). If, on the other hand, the mail software _does_ support
> > the standard, changing the Subject will _not_ break threading.
> >
> > Surely as software professionals we can agree that standards are
> > generally a good thing and that this standard is no exception to that
> > rule. Shouldn't we thus conclude that using non-conformant software is
> > to be strongly discouraged?
> >
> >
> > Definitely a pet peeve of mine...
> >
> >
> > Randall Schulz
>
> [ppy] good catch, Randall ... although I must clarify, I actually
> started a new thread (intentionally) by forwarding the ongoing
> discussion, and then modifying the subject line to reflect the
> subject matter, and to segregate it form that modified "...
> ontolog-forum Digest ..." thread.
>
> I am sending this with a compliant mail client now (Mozilla
> Thunderbird 2.0.0.6). ... Do keep us straight!
>
> Cheers.  =ppy
> --    (05)

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