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From: Chris Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:47:40 -0500
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 05:21:30PM -0500, Schiffel, Jeffrey A wrote:
> Christopher Menzel wrote:
> > 
> > > Nonetheless, you heard *the piece*.  If there is a 2-bar rest in
> > > the middle of the first movement of a symphony, say, you don't
> > > stop hearing the symphony during the silence.  Cage's piece pushes
> > > that fact to the limit.
> Jay Halcomb wrote:
> > Queries: When does one not hear the Cage piece? Does a deaf person
> > hear the piece? Does a person in another city hear it?  Someone
> > asleep? How many times does one hear the piece during a lifetime?
> > When does a performance of the piece begin and end? What is the
> > sound of one hand clapping?
> I just looked at my watch for 4 min 33 sec. I did not hear John Cage
> music.     (01)

Of course not.  You weren't attending a performance of Cage's piece.    (02)

> Two measures of rest in a symphony is an architectonic feature of the
> symphonic movement. Case in point: Mahler, in the first movement of the
> second symphony has a moment where no one plays. The composer's intent
> was to let the hall play. There is a considerable reverberation apparent
> (and for what it is worth, he had a certain hall in mind in Vienna. In
> Wichita, the hall reverberates a quarter tone low).    (03)

That may be a case for *your* point.  There are other cases where the
composer's intention is silence, not reverberation.    (04)

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