This conversation is starting to go dangerously close creating a newer
version of the 7 layer OSI stack but for cognitive applications. (01)
In terms of breaking up functionality required for true interoperability,
the OSI stack ignored semantics (probably why it is viewed as a pure
technical model rather than an interoperability model). (02)
Perhaps it the time is ripe for identifying a new stack for interoperability
between cognitive applications? Here is a random model of some of the
concepts (attached). (03)
Comments, criticism, flames all welcome. (04)
Duane (05)
On 8/2/07 12:36 PM, "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@xxxxxxx> wrote: (06)
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> AT = Andreas Tolk
>
> Re: Syntax, Semantics, and Sometimes Pragmatics
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-08/msg00025.html
> et seq.
>
> AT: This is a great discussion and right into the heart of a problem
> we currently fight with while defining a management language to be
> used to share information within and about a system. To cope with
> this, we used the Levels of Conceptual Interoperability Model
> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levels_of_conceptual_interoperability ),
> which tries to add to this discussion. In a nutshell, we interpret the
> layers as follows: based on connectivity between systems (technical
> interoperability: we can exchange something), we use syntax to structure
> the words and -- in case of technical systems -- terms and/or expressions
> (syntactical interoperability). Semantics give word sense -- for systems
> in form of a thesaurus or dictionary or data model. Pragmatics gives the
> intention and the context in which the expression is used. We add dynamics
> (does the system know how sending and receiving system will change based
> on the information sent/received) and conceptual interoperability (models
> are purposeful abstractions of reality, so in order to align them, we have
> to capture the assumptions).
>
> AT: Regarding this discussion:
> syntax = structure,
> semantics = (word) meaning,
> pragmatics = context
>
> Andreas, et al.
>
> The picture of the situation that Leo outlined is one that derives
> in large measure from the work that Charles Morris did in trying to
> understand Charles Sanders Peirce's "semeiotic", or theory of signs.
>
> Although it can provide us with a good first approach, one that happened
> to form my own first introduction to the subject, there are many devils in
> the details that have to be exorcised in the long haul. I will try to give
> some indication of these as the discussion continues. I already gave some
> links to various articles on semiotics and sign relations that I hope will
> save us all some labor in this effort.
>
> Jon Awbrey
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