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Re: [ontolog-forum] Syntax, Semantics, Pragmatics

To: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx>, Ontolog <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Jon Awbrey <jawbrey@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:02:38 -0400
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AW = Adrian Walker
JA = Jon Awbrey    (02)

Re: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-08/msg00055.html    (03)

JA marked:    (04)

JA: The picture of the situation that Leo outlined is one that derives
    in large measure from the work that Charles Morris did in trying to
    understand Charles Sanders Peirce's "semeiotic", or theory of signs.    (05)

JA: Although it can provide us with a good first approach, one that happened
    to form my own first introduction to the subject, there are many devils in
    the details that have to be exorcised in the long haul.  I will try to give
    some indication of these as the discussion continues.  I already gave some
    links to various articles on semiotics and sign relations that I hope will
    save us all some labor in this effort.    (06)

AW remarked:    (07)

AW: Coming from outside your field, I'm starting
    to wonder what the end product, so to speak,
    would be of this approach?    (08)

Starting to wonder is an apt state of mind.    (09)

One of the aims of Peirce's semiotics, or his theory of signs,
is to understand "signs in general", in other words, any sort
of representation that is capable of conveying information.    (010)

The scope of this project goes far beyond the ordinary types of
linguistic forms that we customarily focus on -- even fixate on --
in these sorts of discussions.    (011)

>From my reading of Peirce's earliest work on signs, it seems to me
that he was forced to analyze the nature (and nurture) of signhood
in order to understand what he called "the logic of science", that is,
all the problems that arise in trying to understand inquiry processes
in general, including scientific method as our most exemplary case,
and involving in its train the nature of inference and information.    (012)

I hope that gives some hint of the chunk that CSP bit off --
and many of us are still chewing, after all these years.    (013)

Jon Awbrey    (014)

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