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Re: [ontolog-forum] Question on "universal ontology"

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From: Patrick Durusau <patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:06:26 -0400
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Paola,    (01)

paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Patrick
> question not for me, but I see that Azamat did not give a direct 
> answer, so I take the liberty to explore your constuct
>
>  let me ask another question just to follow up on your line of inquiry
>
> given a same ontology, will different types of reasoners (expert 
> systems, or human experts)
> give the same answer to a query?
>
> I guess not - because the 'result' - if  by result we mean the same 
> thing - does not depend on the knowledge representation alone, but on 
> the inference patters, axioms, assumptions, belifs, configurations, 
> goal,  and lots of other factors and functions
>
> so I would assume, that given a 'unniversal schema of things 
> representation' would not automatically flatten out all the other factors
> the purpose of such schema would be to enable communication 
> interchange and facilitate
> access to knowledge irrespective of the configuration and the other 
> factors
>
Yes, I noticed that we don't have a direct answer to my original 
question. I would also be interested in seeing an answer to yours.    (02)

To the extent that any schema or ontology (whether 'universal' or not) 
"facilitates access to knowledge," what we call 'disclosure' in the 
Topic Maps Reference Model, I am all for it.    (03)

That is to say if I formally or informally 'disclose' to you enough 
information for you to access information organized by me or to 
integrate it with information you may have organized differently, that 
is a very good thing. The extent to which that can be formalized and 
possibly automated by some means is a plus.    (04)

Hope you are having a great day!    (05)

Patrick    (06)

> I am just thinking generically here, not necessarily answering on 
> Azamats model behalf
>
> cheers
> PDM
>
>
> On 7/23/07, *Patrick Durusau* <patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Azamat,
>
>     Azamat wrote:
>     >  Patrick Durusau wrote: I am sure Azamat will formulate his own
>     response but
>     > I can answer for
>     >  myself since I share the opinion that there is no "universal
>     ontology."
>     >
>     > Dear Patrick,
>     > Let me just ensure you that there is a ''universal ontology'',
>     '' global
>     > ontology'', '' master ontology'', or '' standard ontology'', as a
>     > comprehensive consistent world model.
>     > Otherwise, no Semantic Web, no artificial intelligent systems, etc.
>     >
>     I have a question about the use of a "universal ontology" or some
>     substantial part thereof.
>
>     Would all systems using the same "universal ontology" or some part
>     thereof, given the same inputs, reach the same results?
>
>     Hope you are at the start of a great week!
>
>     Patrick
>
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