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Re: [ontolog-forum] vague wish lists VS formal specifications

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From: "Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:47:56 -0500
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Hi Matthew - do you have more examples of "evidence gathering"?    (01)

On 2/23/07, matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Pat,
>
> See below.
>
> Matthew
>
> > ...
> > >  > [Deborah McPherson]
> > >  > With a checklist to follow, untrained customers will be better
> > >  > prepared and able to state what their needs are and
> > organize their
> > >>  resources to provide ontology engineers, programmers, and formal
> > >>  specification writers with what THEY need to get the data
> > to flow in
> > >>  potentially customized, atypical manners.
> > >
> > >MW: I disagree. My experience is that you need to take what the
> > >customer says they need, and perform analysis to determine what they
> > >really need.
> >
> > A quick note: our experience here (at IHMC) on expert knowledge
> > extraction bears this out, in spades. There is an entire field
> > devoted to techniques for discovering what customers/experts actually
> > know and want, as opposed to what they think they know and want. (In
> > case this idea offends, bear in mind that it applies to the people
> > doing the analysis just as much as to everyone else.)
> >
> > For the record, our KE mavens (I am not one of them) tell me that one
> > of the most efficient such analysis techniques involves collaborative
> > construction of a concept map, which is one reason we have developed
> > so much software around this apparently trivial notion.
>
> MW: Yes. I was very interested to see that COE uses almost exactly the
> notation that I have adopted over the last 15 years or so that I know
> as CDIF (CASE Data Interchange Format) for what I would call evidence
> gathering. The output might be a relatively naive ontology/data model
> (probably does not take account of change over time etc) that we then
> go away and do a more thorough 4D analysis on.
>
> >
> > Pat Hayes
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> >
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