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Re: [ontolog-forum] vague wish lists VS formal specifications

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From: <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:20:40 -0000
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Dear Pat,    (01)

See below.    (02)

Matthew    (03)

> ...
> >  > [Deborah McPherson]
> >  > With a checklist to follow, untrained customers will be better
> >  > prepared and able to state what their needs are and 
> organize their
> >>  resources to provide ontology engineers, programmers, and formal
> >>  specification writers with what THEY need to get the data 
> to flow in
> >>  potentially customized, atypical manners.
> >
> >MW: I disagree. My experience is that you need to take what the
> >customer says they need, and perform analysis to determine what they
> >really need.
> A quick note: our experience here (at IHMC) on expert knowledge 
> extraction bears this out, in spades. There is an entire field 
> devoted to techniques for discovering what customers/experts actually 
> know and want, as opposed to what they think they know and want. (In 
> case this idea offends, bear in mind that it applies to the people 
> doing the analysis just as much as to everyone else.)
> For the record, our KE mavens (I am not one of them) tell me that one 
> of the most efficient such analysis techniques involves collaborative 
> construction of a concept map, which is one reason we have developed 
> so much software around this apparently trivial notion.    (04)

MW: Yes. I was very interested to see that COE uses almost exactly the
notation that I have adopted over the last 15 years or so that I know
as CDIF (CASE Data Interchange Format) for what I would call evidence
gathering. The output might be a relatively naive ontology/data model
(probably does not take account of change over time etc) that we then 
go away and do a more thorough 4D analysis on.    (05)

> Pat Hayes
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