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McComb, Dave wrote:
> Matthew,
>
> I was interested in this article. Your site seems to be down or
> protected or something. If you can't fix that is there a way to get the
> article out where we can see it?
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:34 AM
> To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] vague wish lists VS formal specifications
>
> Dear Debbie,
>
> A long time ago now I wrote something called "Developing High Quality
> Data Models". This is mostly about some traps people fall into when
> they develop data models, and some principles you can apply to avoid
> those traps (so what we have been talking about moving from naive
> models to more robust ones). Section 8.3 gives an example of a CDIF
> model.
>
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/Documents/princ03.pdf
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Deborah
>> MacPherson
>> Sent: 23 February 2007 20:48
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] vague wish lists VS formal specifications
>>
>>
>> Hi Matthew - do you have more examples of "evidence gathering"?
>>
>> On 2/23/07, matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Dear Pat,
>>>
>>> See below.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>> > [Deborah McPherson]
>>>>> > With a checklist to follow, untrained customers will
>> be better
>>>>> > prepared and able to state what their needs are and
>>>> organize their
>>>>>> resources to provide ontology engineers, programmers,
>> and formal
>>>>>> specification writers with what THEY need to get the data
>>>> to flow in
>>>>>> potentially customized, atypical manners.
>>>>> MW: I disagree. My experience is that you need to take what the
>>>>> customer says they need, and perform analysis to
>> determine what they
>>>>> really need.
>>>> A quick note: our experience here (at IHMC) on expert knowledge
>>>> extraction bears this out, in spades. There is an entire field
>>>> devoted to techniques for discovering what
>> customers/experts actually
>>>> know and want, as opposed to what they think they know
>> and want. (In
>>>> case this idea offends, bear in mind that it applies to the people
>>>> doing the analysis just as much as to everyone else.)
>>>>
>>>> For the record, our KE mavens (I am not one of them) tell
>> me that one
>>>> of the most efficient such analysis techniques involves
>> collaborative
>>>> construction of a concept map, which is one reason we
>> have developed
>>>> so much software around this apparently trivial notion.
>>> MW: Yes. I was very interested to see that COE uses almost
>> exactly the
>>> notation that I have adopted over the last 15 years or so
>> that I know
>>> as CDIF (CASE Data Interchange Format) for what I would
>> call evidence
>>> gathering. The output might be a relatively naive
>> ontology/data model
>>> (probably does not take account of change over time etc)
>> that we then
>>> go away and do a more thorough 4D analysis on.
>>>
>>>> Pat Hayes
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