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Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

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From: "Carl Reed OGC Account" <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:32:39 -0700
Message-id: <014301c739df$fc778510$6401a8c0@SusieandCarl>
Deborah -    (01)

There are various places for geospatial and related standard encoding 
references.    (02)

One place to start is the OGC web site. Specifically, I would look at the 
GML Point Profile ( now also part of IEEE 1451 ). 
http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=11606 . This is a very 
simple profile, a restricted subset of the Geography Markup Language 
http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=4700 . You will see more 
of GML sprinkled through the references below.    (03)

Also check out GeoRSS (www.georss.org). There is a simple information model 
for point, line, polygon, and box. There are multiple serializations, 
including a GML application schema.    (04)

For civic addresses, there are a variety of standards. Two of the key ones 
are xAL (from OASIS) which is part of CIQ 
.http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq/ciq.html#6 . Then there is the 
work of the IETF for civic address. The IETF is looking at encoding location 
into a number of key infrastructure standards for the internet, such as DHCP 
and SIP. Check out http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/geopriv-charter.html at 
the bottom of that page for various drafts as well as a set of new internet 
RFCs. Also note that for the application level standards, the IETF is using 
an application schema of GML. The particular application schema has been 
vetted by the membership of the OGC and will soon be posted as an OGC best 
practices document. The IETF list also has a lengthy dialogue on location by 
reference, as this is a key issue with E-911 services and internet devices 
and applications, such as VoIP.    (05)

Finally, there is the Geospatial Incubator activity at the W3C. The OGC, 
W3C, and a number of joint members are discussing various semantics issues 
related to expressing location as part of the semantic web.    (06)

There is lots, lots more but I think I have provided some good starting 
points :-)    (07)

Regards    (08)

Carl    (09)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group    (010)


> Yes, I was thinking about all three: address, coordinates, reference
> to other locations as all signifying one same location in three
> different ways.
>
> Please send links on standards I am dying of curiosity.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Debbie MacPherson
>
> On 1/15/07, Carl Reed OGC Account <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Deborah's use of the word "location" triggered an alert in my mind. By
>> location, are you referring to an address, a location defined by
>> coordinates, or a location defined by reference or all three? The reason 
>> I
>> ask is that there is a tremendous amount of standards work already done 
>> that
>> allows simple expression of location. There is also an excellent standard
>> for expressing location and temporal location. Finally, there is also 
>> some
>> really strong standards work related to using web accessible registries 
>> that
>> allow harvesting, maintenance, and discovery of location enabled
>> information.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Carl Reed
>> Open Geospatial Consortium
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Deborah MacPherson
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group
>>
>> I think the biggest challenge is establishing a set of coordinates to 
>> record
>> precise times and locations of data publishing/sharing and data reuse...a
>> registry system for authors and editors to place their own work, and
>> interpretations of work by others, in context before self publishing in
>> places as enormous and broad as the w3c.
>>
>> Deborah MacPherson
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/13/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx < paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Thanks AJ, Ed and Deborah for the
>> > exciting things
>> >
>> > I perceive consensus in the community at large that usability is an 
>> > issue
>> for ontologies  as well as more fluid and dynamic reserch validation
>> processes. This thread offers us the opportunity of doing both in near 
>> real
>> time.
>> >
>> > AJ - I have just added myself to your project page, and registered
>> > feedback will follow
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > PDM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/13/07, AJ Chen <ajchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Open data movement is going toward the direction you are probably
>> thinking about. Open data is less known than open access, but I think, if
>> the vision of open data can be realized, it will bring huge benefits
>> including real time data publishing/sharing and data reuse, which will
>> accelerate science and technology development for sure.
>> > >
>> > > Moreover, I happen to believe semantic web technology and ontology 
>> > > are
>> just the right tools for making open data truly powerful because open 
>> data
>> wrapped in semantic objects can be discovered, shared and reused 
>> immediately
>> as they become available on the web.  The task force on scientific
>> publishing that I'm coordinating under w3c HCLS group is developing SPE
>> (Self-Publishing of Experiment) ontology for this purpose. In supporting
>> this task, i.e. promoting open data on semantic web, I've created a
>> easy-to-use semantic web publishing tool for researchers to open their 
>> data.
>> I'm also building a search engine for researchers to search the open 
>> data.
>> > >
>> > > Obviously, opening raw data on the web by researchers themselves
>> requires a shift in the mind set, and it's definitely the biggest 
>> challenge.
>> Good ideas that can encourage this shift are still to come.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > AJ Chen, Ph.D.
>> > > Palo Alto, CA. USA
>> > > 1-650-283-4091
>> > > web2express.org
>> > > W3C Scientific Publishing task force
>> > > "Open data on semantic web"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ed Dodds wrote:
>> > > Ontolog Journal maybe? Saw this http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > since June??
>> > >
>> > > that's an eternity in internet time. I feel compelled to make an open
>> > > criticism of how the journal reviews business sadly can sometimes 
>> > > slow
>> > > down and hinders scientific progress, rather than promoting it 
>> > > (making
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > the case for an open research group I guess)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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