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Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

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From: Joshua Lieberman <jlieberman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:19:28 -0500
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Hi,

Very interesting and emblematic ambiguity, as I perceived the "coordinate" term here  to mean either spatio-temporal or  semantic (e.g. topical) dimensions. These are both challenges for ontological "referencing".

Josh Lieberman

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On Jan 15, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Carl Reed OGC Account wrote:

Deborah's use of the word "location" triggered an alert in my mind. By location, are you referring to an address, a location defined by coordinates, or a location defined by reference or all three? The reason I ask is that there is a tremendous amount of standards work already done that allows simple _expression_ of location. There is also an excellent standard for expressing location and temporal location. Finally, there is also some really strong standards work related to using web accessible registries that allow harvesting, maintenance, and discovery of location enabled information.
 
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Carl Reed
Open Geospatial Consortium 
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

I think the biggest challenge is establishing a set of coordinates to record precise times and locations of data publishing/sharing and data reuse...a registry system for authors and editors to place their own work, and interpretations of work by others, in context before self publishing in places as enormous and broad as the w3c.

Deborah MacPherson


On 1/13/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx < paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks AJ, Ed and Deborah for the
exciting things

I perceive consensus in the community at large that usability is an issue for ontologies  as well as more fluid and dynamic reserch validation processes. This thread offers us the opportunity of doing both in near real time.

AJ - I have just added myself to your project page, and registered
feedback will follow

thanks

PDM





On 1/13/07, AJ Chen <ajchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Open data movement is going toward the direction you are probably thinking about. Open data is less known than open access, but I think, if the vision of open data can be realized, it will bring huge benefits including real time data publishing/sharing and data reuse, which will accelerate science and technology development for sure.

Moreover, I happen to believe semantic web technology and ontology are just the right tools for making open data truly powerful because open data wrapped in semantic objects can be discovered, shared and reused immediately as they become available on the web.  The task force on scientific publishing that I'm coordinating under w3c HCLS group is developing SPE (Self-Publishing of Experiment) ontology for this purpose. In supporting this task, i.e. promoting open data on semantic web, I've created a easy-to-use semantic web publishing tool for researchers to open their data. I'm also building a search engine for researchers to search the open data.

Obviously, opening raw data on the web by researchers themselves requires a shift in the mind set, and it's definitely the biggest challenge. Good ideas that can encourage this shift are still to come.


AJ Chen, Ph.D.
Palo Alto, CA. USA
1-650-283-4091
web2express.org
W3C Scientific Publishing task force
"Open data on semantic web"


Ed Dodds wrote:
Ontolog Journal maybe? Saw this http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs


  
since June??
that's an eternity in internet time. I feel compelled to make an open
criticism of how the journal reviews business sadly can sometimes slow
down and hinders scientific progress, rather than promoting it (making

the case for an open research group I guess)





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