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Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

To: Deborah MacPherson <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: AJ Chen <ajchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:57:43 -0800
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To create new data sharing platforms on the web, both centralized repository approach and distributed self-maintained web site approach are valid. I hope there are serious players pushing both approaches at the same time, which at the end will give the best of both to the R&D community.

There are already successful data repositories like genebank. NFS is pushing more of this sort. These repositories usually use relational database (not ontology) for data presentation and storage. Some of them may move to ontology-based, but it may depend on how ontology and semantic technologies in general are accepted in the next few years.

Distributed self-publishing of experiment data on the web is a relatively new concept, I think. I proposed this approach to w3c  HCLS group and has worked on it because, I think, semantic web technologies (with ontology) has much higher chance to succeed here. The reason is simple: the traditional approach using relational database is not as effective as ontology approach for building web-scale distributed data sharing/exchange platform. Open Data distributed on the semantic web makes perfect sense to me. I have been able to create a prototype system for this purpose with open source tools. So, technology is not the big issue.  Big challenge is more on the side of behavior or culture.

AJ
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Deborah MacPherson wrote:
I think the biggest challenge is establishing a set of coordinates to record precise times and locations of data publishing/sharing and data reuse...a registry system for authors and editors to place their own work, and interpretations of work by others, in context before self publishing in places as enormous and broad as the w3c.

Deborah MacPherson


On 1/13/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx < paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks AJ, Ed and Deborah for the
exciting things

I perceive consensus in the community at large that usability is an issue for ontologies  as well as more fluid and dynamic reserch validation processes. This thread offers us the opportunity of doing both in near real time.

AJ - I have just added myself to your project page, and registered
feedback will follow

thanks

PDM





On 1/13/07, AJ Chen <ajchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Open data movement is going toward the direction you are probably thinking about. Open data is less known than open access, but I think, if the vision of open data can be realized, it will bring huge benefits including real time data publishing/sharing and data reuse, which will accelerate science and technology development for sure.

Moreover, I happen to believe semantic web technology and ontology are just the right tools for making open data truly powerful because open data wrapped in semantic objects can be discovered, shared and reused immediately as they become available on the web.  The task force on scientific publishing that I'm coordinating under w3c HCLS group is developing SPE (Self-Publishing of Experiment) ontology for this purpose. In supporting this task, i.e. promoting open data on semantic web, I've created a easy-to-use semantic web publishing tool for researchers to open their data. I'm also building a search engine for researchers to search the open data.

Obviously, opening raw data on the web by researchers themselves requires a shift in the mind set, and it's definitely the biggest challenge. Good ideas that can encourage this shift are still to come.


AJ Chen, Ph.D.
Palo Alto, CA. USA
1-650-283-4091
web2express.org
W3C Scientific Publishing task force
"Open data on semantic web"


Ed Dodds wrote:
Ontolog Journal maybe? Saw this http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs


  
since June??
      
that's an eternity in internet time. I feel compelled to make an open
criticism of how the journal reviews business sadly can sometimes slow
down and hinders scientific progress, rather than promoting it (making


the case for an open research group I guess)

 


 
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