Dear Bob and all in this workgroup.
here is my situation, loosely defined (01)
1. I am helping global teams of open source ER software developers,
namely sahana.lk as well as occasional others, to help improve their
conceptual and semantic consistency. This is a massive challenge,
given linguistic and conceptual diversity, although assuming english
is the working language, literacy and domain expertise among
developers vary considerably.My work is aimed to ensure first of all
that the system works consistently and that there
are no errors and critical failures generated from incoherent representation. (02)
2. Whe I look for an ER ontology that we can reference as a starting
framework, I dont find any. So I am left with compiling pieces of
different puzzles that inevitably challenge of my first goal: create
consistency. (03)
3. I therefore think (cogito) we need a common open ontology framework
for ER that needs to be agreed to and in principle adhered to by all
organisations operating in the field, and that can also be referenced
by open source software and systems. I start looking for existing
documentation and I dont find much on public sources, and what I find
is not usable (ie not visible, not easy to unstand, not documented,
not adapltable and does not allow the user - me - to give any feedback
- quoting Norman) (04)
So my first topic of discussion is: (05)
- is there an ontology that we can reference and evolve for ER?
if yes, where is it? is ti any good (usable?)? it been opened up for
consultation among the community? and has such public consultation
been documented?
if no, what is there? shall we start something?is it a realistic goal?
This is a question that I'd like to add to the wiki page on 25 of this month (06)
Also, re. starting a resource library and workpage, I wonder if we
should start a separate mailing list for EPO given that maybe not
everyone on Ontolog is intersted is this domain and discussions, which
I anticipate may intensify in future weeks (07)
Look forward to collaboration (08)
Thanks (09)
Paola Di Maio (010)
On 1/10/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Bob
> thanks for reply and for answering my questions.
>
> I have been trying to post to the wiki yesterday but we need to
> unblock an IP issue
> before I can create my account (working with Peter on that)
>
> > 1. is anyone on this list actively involved in ERO or related project
> >
> > YES: Several of us on the Panel are working actively on Emergency Response
> > Ontologies, and in
> > the context of Emergency Response System_ Management using Ontology for
> > several purposes.
> > Our Bio Sketch section identifies a few of these projects.
>
> Thanks a lot, I saw that, but I could not find links to any work being
> actually produced or published, unless I missed something
>
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > 2. has there been any positive deliverable from such sessions to date
> >
> > PERHAPS: If By "positive" you mean some useful process improvement in this
> > messy and largely unmapped danger zones similar to your work on the
> > PeopleFinder after the Tsunami and Katrina, then my thinking is NO,
> I THOUGHT SO, I WONDER IF WE SHOULD TAKE STEPS, I LL EXPLAIN IN
> ANOTHER POST MY WORK
>
> but if > you mean working papers and efforts to introduce better structures in
> > emergency response and communication standards and models, then YES. Ken has
> > several papers and a great book addressing both the fundamentals of
> > reasoning about ambiguity in control systems, AND a model useful for
> > Situational Assessment and logistics re-supply of life support materials
> > (SAWA, the Situational Awareness Agent....see Papers) Rex, Michelle, and
> > myself are participating in many emergency response systems (ERS) planning
> > efforts at both standards level and community response team levels.
> BRILLIANT - I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THE READING BUT CANNOT FIND THE LINKS
> MAY I SUGGEST WE START A LIBRARY OF RESOURCES AND PERHAPS A
> CONTROLLED VOCABULARY TO THIS EFFECT?
> >
> > > --------------------------------------
> > 3. got any useful pages/links
> >
> > > YEP: and it might take a while to assemble my working bibliography.Attend
> > our session and enjoy the rich discussions....!!!
> I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THIS FOR WEEKS NOW, CAUSE I AM SUBMITTING A
> PAPER THIS WEEKEND, BUT DID NOT FIND MUCH! ANY REASON WHY THE STUFF IS
> NOT COMING UP ON SEARCHES FORM ANY DATABASES?
> I LOOK FORWARD TO BE ATTENDING THE SESSION, IN FACT, I'D LIKE TO JOIN
> THE PANELISTS, HOW DO I SIGN MYSELF UP? I HAVE NOT SEEN A CALL, OR
> MAYBE HAVE I MISSED IT? I MAY HAVE OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN JOINING
> FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT I AM WORKING ON.
> > --------------------------
> >
> > 4. anyone interested in working together towards progressing this area?
> >
> > OF COURSE: This is the exciting part of what Peter Yim has been able to
> > construct with the help of many others: an international "White Board" where
> > new ideas can meet significant problems with possible huge benefits.
> YOU MEAN THE WIKI?
> As you
> > say:
> >
> > " I realise it's a huge, complex task and potentially a can of worms,
> >
> > so I will rescope objectives as I go along..."
>
> THANKS FOR REPLIES, LOOK FORWARD TO COOPERATION
> >
> Paola
> > ________________________________
> > From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:40 AM
> > To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Welcome to the "ontolog-forum" mailing list
> >
> >
> > Greetings Ontopeoples
> >
> > I believe we exchanged posts in cc on prior occasions (revisiting
> > axioms lately anyone?) but I never formally joined this mailing list,
> > and I am now a subscriber.
> >
> > I am drafting thoughts towards on a 'Open Ontology for Emergency
> > Relief' in support of a future generation of open source web based
> > data exchange services (SOA model).
> > This is part of ongoing voluntary work that I am doing, and also part
> > of my research activities. At this stage, the goal is not yet
> > 'develop an Open Ontology' but rather "define the work done to date in
> > this area, and identify possible systemic and infrastructural
> > challenges' as well making some suggestions for an appropriate
> > methodology and conceptual/contextual definition. I realise its a
> > huge, complex task and potentially a can of worms, so I ll rescope
> > objectives as I go along..
> >
> > I find on your pages
> >
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EmergencyResponseOntologyApplication#nidPTP
> > the information pasted below (session rescheduled) an no further links
> > I am now posting to write
> >
> > 1. is anyone on this list actively involved in ERO or related project
> > 2. has there been any positive deliverable from such sessions to date
> > 3. got any useful pages/links
> > 4. anyone interested in working together towards progressing this area?
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Regards
> > Paola Di Maio
> >
> > The originally planned "Ontology Applications in Emergency Response
> > Panel Discussion" (previously slated for 2006-08-31) is being
> > rescheduled (PTP)
> >
> > * Discussion Topic: "Ontology Applications in Emergency Response
> > Panel Discussion" (PTQ)
> > * Co-Organizer: RexBrooks & BobSmith (PTR)
> > * Preparation - see /Prep (PTS)
> > * General Agenda for Emergency Response Ontology, NCOR, Registry
> > Workshops (PTT)
> > o ARL does sponsor Seminars that meet these criteria (PTU)
> > + Concept Development focus? (PTV)
> > + Ontology Standards in Military Context focus? (PTW)
> > + Budget Estimation or Cost Drivers (See York Sure's LoC) (
> >
> > O
> >
> (011)
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