Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

[paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx]

HI Deborah

I appreciate your visualisation of this space and following discussion

 

(by coordinates, I gather that, given the virtual environment that we are refererncing

the coordinates that you are thinking of are:

1) isp to access the url location of the server where the file is loaded

2) server time, user time

3) user name ID/PASSWORD of registered user/person who loads the doc

4) user name ID/PASSWORD of registered user who downloads the doc, with isp location etc

 

 

I however do not see the challenge, you mean, who has published first, assuming there might be

concurrency/competition on  claiming who was the first to publish on a certain topic?

 

This could be best achieved by setting up some mirrors pehaps, and asking a third party like google, yahoo or or other trusted source to update their index as frequently as possible.

I think a relatively safe system can be easily designed

a combination of a recepit, an email copy of the work loaded to a neutral organisation who would keep a copy on file

would be enough to settle any dispute

 

I like the idea

shall we do it?

 

Paola DM

 

On 1/15/07, Deborah MacPherson <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think the biggest challenge is establishing a set of coordinates to record precise times and locations of data publishing/sharing and data reuse...a registry system for authors and editors to place their own work, and interpretations of work by others, in context before self publishing in places as enormous and broad as the w3c.

Deborah MacPherson

On 1/13/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx < paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks AJ, Ed and Deborah for the
exciting things

I perceive consensus in the community at large that usability is an issue for ontologies  as well as more fluid and dynamic reserch validation processes. This thread offers us the opportunity of doing both in near real time.

AJ - I have just added myself to your project page, and registered
feedback will follow

thanks

PDM

On 1/13/07, AJ Chen <ajchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:

Open data movement is going toward the direction you are probably thinking about. Open data is less known than open access, but I think, if the vision of open data can be realized, it will bring huge benefits including real time data publishing/sharing and data reuse, which will accelerate science and technology development for sure.

Moreover, I happen to believe semantic web technology and ontology are just the right tools for making open data truly powerful because open data wrapped in semantic objects can be discovered, shared and reused immediately as they become available on the web.  The task force on scientific publishing that I'm coordinating under w3c HCLS group is developing SPE (Self-Publishing of Experiment) ontology for this purpose. In supporting this task, i.e. promoting open data on semantic web, I've created a easy-to-use semantic web publishing tool for researchers to open their data. I'm also building a search engine for researchers to search the open data.

Obviously, opening raw data on the web by researchers themselves requires a shift in the mind set, and it's definitely the biggest challenge. Good ideas that can encourage this shift are still to come.

AJ Chen, Ph.D.
Palo Alto, CA. USA
1-650-283-4091
web2express.org
W3C Scientific Publishing task force
"Open data on semantic web"
 

Ed Dodds wrote:

Ontolog Journal maybe? Saw this 
http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs


  

since June??
      

that's an eternity in internet time. I feel compelled to make an open
criticism of how the journal reviews business sadly can sometimes slow

down and hinders scientific progress, rather than promoting it (making


the case for an open research group I guess)

 


 
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