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Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group

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From: "Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:33:02 -0500
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Thanks - I meant their area of expertise. In the cross over between
architecture and GIS as shown on the slide, I wonder whether design
and function, or constructability issues and costs, are higher
priority.    (01)

Debbie MacPherson    (02)

On 1/21/07, creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Deborah -
>
> The slides I sent were from the OWS-4 demonstration. The construction
> analysis component of the demonstration was designed to show how IFCs
> could be integrated with other sources of geospatial information (such as
> from a GIS) by an analyst to determine as quickly as possible where field
> hospital operations could most effectively be deployed. In the case of
> this demonstration, the analysts were from US Army response units - I am
> not sure of their actual names :-)
>
> Regards
>
> Carl
>
> > Hi Carl
> >
> > I will try to participate in OGC and GITA Emerging Technology Summit
> > IV, it sounds interesting. On the slides, is the constuction analyst
> > typically and architect or engineer doing the design, a contractor
> > interested in pricing and constructability issues or a combination? Is
> > it one person?
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> > On 1/17/07, Carl Reed OGC Account <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Deborah -
> >>
> >> Really interesting. Some more information. The OGC and NIBS/IAI have a
> >> memorandum of understanding. We (and our respective memberships) have
> >> been
> >> collaborating on a variety of issues related to BIM and IFC
> >> interoperability
> >> between the Building, CAD, and Geo domains. Considerable progress has
> >> been
> >> made at this more fundamental level. The current state of the work was
> >> demonstrated last month as part of the OGC Web Services 4
> >> Interoperability
> >> initiative. I have attached a couple of slides that capture how IFC
> >> based
> >> content can be utilized and integrated with other geo content sources
> >> for
> >> use in decision support, in this case for emergency services. At this
> >> point,
> >> the work is more focused on getting the technical interoperability
> >> foundation solid with basic semantics being a component of this work.
> >>
> >> And check out http://www.gisuser.com/content/view/10618/ .
> >>
> >> The above efforts do not explicitly address making recommendations on
> >> ontologies that span and connect disciplines, but they are all steps in
> >> that
> >> direction and various dialogues have been happening regarding semantics
> >> and
> >> ontologies for creating a truly virtual as-built or to be built world.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Deborah MacPherson
> >> To: [ontolog-forum]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:30 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] the case for an open research group
> >>
> >> Thanks John and Carl.  I work with architectural specifications and
> >> typically use MasterFormat 2004, Uniformat II and sometimes OmniClass. I
> >> believe the Industry Foundation Classes (IFC) is the preferred standard
> >> used
> >> in between construction document standards and geographic standards such
> >> as
> >> OGC. Building Information Modelling (BIM) aims to interoperate with all
> >> the
> >> above some day in the future.
> >>
> >> An ontology I am really looking for, or want to develop. is a method of
> >> mapping between sets of standards using time, location, and data's
> >> actual
> >> use. For example, say you had a museum in a standardized geographic
> >> location
> >> and the building is modeled in BIM, the real museum is in a country with
> >> a
> >> culture, the objects in the museum were made and interpreted by that
> >> culture
> >> for one reason or another at different points in time. Could virtual
> >> places
> >> also be made to apply real world standards such as OGC and IFC to
> >> organize
> >> the collection databases as well? Tell the story of places through their
> >> buildings and displayed objects using systems probably made for
> >> different
> >> purposes. Get the whole process into an easy language, an ontology, so
> >> curators and others who have data to share can place it where they think
> >> it
> >> belongs.
> >>
> >> Any recommendations on ontologies made to span across and connect
> >> disciplines using each areas own sets of standards?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/17/07, John A. Bateman <bateman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > On 1/15/07, Carl Reed OGC Account < creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > The reason I
> >> > >> ask is that there is a tremendous amount of standards work already
> >> done
> >> that
> >> > >> allows simple expression of location. There is also an excellent
> >> standard
> >> > >> for expressing location and temporal location.
> >> >
> >> > And for those who are looking for
> >> > more than the "simple expression of location",
> >> > I refer newcomers to the pointers in the 'Spatial Ontology Baseline'
> >> > given at:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://www.ontospace.uni-bremen.de/twiki/bin/view/Main/ProjectDeliverables
> >> >
> >> > John Bateman
> >> >
> >> >
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