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Re: [uos-convene] UOS Agenda and Logistical Details

To: Upper Ontology Summit convention <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Mike Davis <davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Adam Pease <apease@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:31:21 -0800
Message-id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060310073108.02cac310@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Bill,
   I agree completely.    (01)

Adam    (02)

At 10:10 PM 3/9/2006, Bill Andersen wrote:
>An open letter to the UOS organizers and all key participants.
>Please read the whole thing.
>
>         .bill
>
>On Mar 9, 2006, at 19:24 , Adam Pease wrote:
>
>>Peter,
>>   That's good to hear.  My suggestion, with all respect to Mills,
>>would be to have Doug, Nicola and myself each present our views for
>>1/2 hour each from 9am to 10:30am.  That's still quite limited, but
>>might give the group at least some of the groundwork needed to make
>>progress on an upper ontology summit.
>
>Let me amplify Adam's comments:
>
>For this proceeding to be taken seriously, there needs to be a clear
>focus, clear goals, and ample time given to discuss some very
>difficult topics.  All three are lacking from the proposed agenda.  I
>completely agree with Adam on his earlier points about lack of proper
>focus.  Now, let me move on to another topic.  Upon reading Adam's
>post I decided to look at the agenda myself:
>
> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/ 
>UosApplicationDialogMeeting_2006_03_15
>
>I discovered that Wednesday morning's agenda is a platform for
>commercial vendors of "ontology" tools to talk about and demonstrate
>their products and/or positions.  This is a completely inappropriate
>activity to be mixed in with a scientific discussion of upper
>ontology and an attempt at reconciliation of UOs as engineering
>efforts.  I had absolutely no idea such an activity was planned.  Had
>I known I would have protested.  Who is the audience for this?  Why
>where these particular parties selected?  Who selected them?  Is the
>press invited?  What statements have been prepared to give to the
>press regarding these commercial interests?
>
>We all deserve answers to these questions.
>
>I have given freely of my valuable time to help shape the wording and
>agenda for the summit.  I work very hard to keep my life as an
>academic researcher in this area separate from my interest in my
>company.   Now I find out that my efforts and name and reputation and
>even that of my company are being used in part to foster the
>commercial interests of those in competition with us?  This is an
>absolutely unheard of outrage!!!!!
>
>I can't speak for Adam or for Doug Lenat, but If you're going to have
>demos, then why not include demos of Ontology Works IODE, Cyc, and
>Sigma ­ the most mature products in existence that have REAL upper
>ontologies in them.  Either open it up to anyone 
>with an actual ULO- based product, or kill the 
>commercial content altogether.  I suggest
>killing the commercial content so we can stick to the science and
>engineering.  So...
>
>Can any of you explain any of this???
>
>If not, then I will formally (and *very* publicly) withdraw my
>personal support and that of my company for the UOS effort.
>Moreover, I will in the strongest possible terms urge my commercial,
>academic, and government colleagues to do the same.
>
>         .bill
>
>Bill Andersen (andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>Chief Scientist
>Ontology Works, Inc. (www.ontologyworks.com)
>3600 O'Donnell Street, Suite 600
>Baltimore, MD 21224
>Office: 410-675-1201
>Cell: 443-858-6444
>
>
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Adam Pease
http://www.ontologyportal.org - Free ontologies and tools    (04)


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