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RE: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER

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From: "Uschold, Michael F" <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:46:54 -0800
Message-id: <4301AFA5A72736428DA388B73676A38101F3F85F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
If everyone else prefers the given wording, then so be it.
I think the last part undermines our cause.    (01)

Adding the last sentence:     (02)

1. Is UNNECESSARY - anyone technically or financially supporting, can be
assumed to, in some way, be supporting the purpose of the summit.    (03)

2. GIVES THE WRONG MESSAGE. The 'and/or' clause amounts to saying:
"one of things some of the co-sponsors might be doing is  endorsing the
purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."    (04)

That is an awful message to send.    (05)

Mike    (06)


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
Cc: Upper Ontology Summit Organizing Committee
Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER    (07)

Mike et al.,    (08)

Just came out of the UOS Organization Committee meeting ... after
  reviewing the situation, it was finally adopted that we will use the
following definition:    (09)

    "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who are providing technical or
funding support, and/or endorsing the purpose of this Upper Ontology
Summit."    (010)

See discussion notes at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/OrganizingCo
mmitteeMeeting_2006_03_02#nidKIM     (011)


Thanks & regards.  =ppy
--    (012)

Peter P. Yim wrote Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:30:47 -0800:
> Thank you, Mike.
> 
> I'll bring this up at the UOS Organizing Committee conference call 
> this afternoon for a disposition.
> 
> Regards.  =ppy
> --    (013)


> Uschold, Michael F wrote Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:00:09 -0800:
>> May I suggest a much simpler definition:
>>
>> Replace:
>>     "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who would provide technical or
>> funding support (which all of you are already doing), and/or
endorsing
>> the purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."
>>
>> With:
>>
>>    "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who that provide technical or
>> funding support."    (014)


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Ray [mailto:ray@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 
>> 2006 10:28 AM
>> To: 'Upper Ontology Summit convention'
>> Subject: RE: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>>
>> Peter,
>>     Even though we're also listed as co-organizers, why don't you go
>> ahead and list NIST as a co-sponsor as well. It may turn out to be a
>> who's who list, and I'd hate to be absent!     (015)


> ======
> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:08:23 -0800
> From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
> 
> Re-stating the definition again (didn't clean it up enough in my
> last message):
> 
> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who are providing technical or
> funding support, and/or endorsing the purpose of this Upper
> Ontology Summit effort."
> 
> =ppy
> =======    (016)


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Yim
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:36 PM
>> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
>> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Further to our uos-conveners telephone conversation today, we agreed
>> that this 'co-sponsorship' exercise needs everyone to opt-in before
we
>> will be moving them from the "candidate" to the "confirmed" list.
>>
>> We also committed to state clearly how we define 'co-sponsors' 
>> whenever we cite that list. Therefore, let me re-state the definition
>> again,
>> here:
>>
>>    "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who would provide technical or
>> funding support (which all of you are already doing), and/or
endorsing
>> the purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."
>>
>> Ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit#nidIOJ
>>
>> So far, I have the following on the "confirmed" list:
>>
>> # the Applied Ontology journal    (KLW)
>> # Aritculate Software (AdamPease)    (KDL)
>> # Boeing (MichaelUschold)    (KDO)
>> # EPISTLE (European Process Industries STEP Technical Liaison 
>> Executive)    (KLS)
>> # CIM3 (PeterYim)    (KIX)
>> # ECOR - European Centre for Ontological Research (NicolaGuarino)    (017)

>> (KDH)
>> # IEEE Standard Upper Ontology Working Group - http://suo.ieee.org 
>> (JimSchoening)    (KDZ)
>> # NCOR - (US) National Center for Ontological Research (BarrySmith & 
>> MarkMusen)    (IOY)
>> # Shell (MatthewWest)    (KDM)
>> # University of Maryland College of Information Studies 
>> (DagobertSoergel)    (KDS)
>>
>> and I still have the following organizations on the "candidate" list:
>>
>> # MITRE (LeoObrst)    (KDI)
>> # CNR Institute for Cognitive Sciences and Technologies / Laboratory
of
>> Applied Ontology (Trento & Rome) (NicolaGuarino & AldoGangemi)
(KDJ)
>> # Cycorp (DougLenat)    (KDK)
>> # IBM (ChrisWelty)    (KDN)
>> # ISO 18629 Working Group (MichaelGruninger)    (KE1)
>> # Ontology Works (BillAndersen)    (KDP)
>> # University of Bremen (JohnBateman)    (KDQ)
>> # University of Toronto (MichaelGruninger)    (KDR)
>> # Texas A&M University (ChrisMenzel)    (KDT)
>> # University at Buffalo (BarrySmith)    (KDU)
>> # Stanford University (MarkMusen)    (KDV)
>> # EPA (BrandNiemann)    (KDW)
>> # National Center for Biomedical Ontology [cBio] (MarkMusen)    (KDX)
>> # DERI ? (DieterFensel .. Leo, please help confirm) # USC and/or ISI
?
>> (JerryHobbs) # UMBC ? (SergeiNirenberg) # NSF ? (MariaZemankova ...
>> please help confirm) # HITOP (MarcWine ... BrandNiemann please help
>> confirm) # FEA-DRM ? (BrandNiemann please help confirm) # NIH and/or
NCI
>> and/or UMLS ?
>> (MarkMusen please help confirm) # UBL ? (PeterYim please help
confirm) #
>> OASIS ?  (PeterYim please help confirm)
>>
>> If you see your name in parenthesis against an organization, I need
your
>> help and support. Kindly get back to me (hopefully, before the end of
>> this
>> week):
>>
>> 1. if your organization can be listed as a 'co-sponsor' for UOS. I 
>> need either a "yes" (I hope) or a "no" answer to bring this to
>> closure.
>>
>> 2. if the answer is "yes", please provide the exact way you want your
>> organization's name worded -- this may possibly be broader or
narrower
>> than what we have listed now. (e.g. Mark might want "Stanford Medical
>> Informatics" instead of "Stanford University" because the latter
would 
>> probably take too  long to clear, ... etc.)
>>
>> 3. if there are more institutional support that you can help round
up,
>> please help by seeking the same and providing their name. (e.g.
Nicola
>> and Mark came back and said we could list the "Applied Ontology"
journal
>> as a co-sponsor too, and that's just
>> wonderful!)
>>
>> We need as many co-sponsors as we can! Your support will be really
>> valuable and will be appreciated by all here.
>>
>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>> --     (018)


>> Peter P. Yim wrote Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:33:31 -0800:
>>> As promoting the use and publicizing "upper ontologies" is one of
the 
>>> main goals of this Upper Ontology Summit, we are hoping to get as
many
>>
>>> organizations to endorse the effort as we can.
>>>
>>> To this end, the UOS Organizing Committee has designated the label
of 
>>> 'Co-sponsors' for enlisting institutional support. 'Co-sponsors' are    (019)

>>> organizations who would provide technical or funding support (which 
>>> all of you are already doing), and/or endorsing the purpose of this 
>>> Upper Ontology Summit effort. No other 'cost' or requirement are 
>>> involved
>> ...
>>> other than everyone's good intentions.
>>>
>>> We are hoping we can include all the relevant organizations each and    (020)

>>> everyone of us (here on this [uos-convene] list) are directly
involved
>>
>>> with to be a co-sponsor.
>>>
>>> I have compiled a draft list as follows (no particular order):
>>>
>>> # NCOR (BarrySmith & MarkMusen)
>>> # ECOR (WernerCeusters & BarrySmith)
>>> # MITRE (LeoObrst & PatCassidy)
>>> # CNR Institute for Cognitive Sciences and Technologies / Laboratory    (021)

>>> of Applied Ontology (Trento & Rome) (NicolaGuarino & AldoGangemi) # 
>>> Cycorp (DougLenat) # Aritculate Software (AdamPease) # Shell
>>> (MatthewWest) # IBM (ChrisWelty) # Boeing (MichaelUschold) #
Ontology 
>>> Works (BillAndersen) # University of Bremen (JohnBateman) #
University
>>
>>> of Toronto (MichaelGruninger) # University of Maryland
>>> (DagobertSoergel) # Texas A&M University (ChrisMenzel) # University
at
>>
>>> Buffalo (BarrySmith) # Stanford University (MarkMusen) # EPA
>>> (BrandNiemann) # National Center for Biomedical Ontology [cBio]
>>> (MarkMusen) # IEEE P1600.1 SUO-WG (JimSchoening) # ISO 15926 Working    (022)

>>> Group (MatthewWest) # ISO 18629 Working Group (MichaelGruninger) # 
>>> DERI ? (DieterFensel) # USC and/or ISI ? (JerryHobbs) # UMBC ?
>>> (SergeiNirenberg) # NSF ? (MariaZemankova ... please help confirm) #    (023)

>>> HITOP (MarcWine ... BrandNiemann please help confirm) # FEA-DRM ?
>>> (BrandNiemann please help confirm) # NIH and/or NCI and/or UMLS ? 
>>> (MarkMusen please help confirm) # UBL ? (PeterYim please help
confirm)
>>
>>> # OASIS ?  (PeterYim please help confirm)
>>>
>>> So far, I've got every organization there as a 'candidate' for now, 
>>> and will hope to move them to the 'confirmed' co-sponsor list
quickly 
>>> ... a latest version of this list will be updated and posted under:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit#nidIOJ
>>>
>>> Also, I have a few names with "?" behind them ... there are some 
>>> dependencies in these cases. Will the people cited with these names 
>>> please help and work on them.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would need to know, from everyone:
>>>
>>> 1. if they can't be or don't want to be listed as a 'co-sponsor', or    (024)

>>> would need some time to get clearance to do so.
>>>
>>> 2. if they want the co-sponsorship to be worded in a particular way,    (025)

>>> say to a broader or narrower organizational designation. (e.g. Mark 
>>> might want "Stanford Medical Informatics" instead of "Stanford
>> University"
>>> because the latter would probably take too  long to clear, ... etc.)
>>>
>>> 3. if there are more institutional support that you can help round
up,
>>
>>> please help by seeking the same and providing their name. (e.g.
Nicola
>>
>>> and/or Mark may help get the Journal of Applied Ontology as a 
>>> co-sponsor, ... etc.)
>>>
>>> 4. Other comments or suggestions regarding this matter, and more 
>>> broadly on how we can improve on the promotional effort.
>>>
>>> Let's try to hear from everyone by end-of-day Tuesday 2/28 or by the    (026)

>>> time of our conference call (which Steve Ray is calling.) We need to    (027)

>>> get the list compiled as quickly as we can, so we could incorporate 
>>> them into press releases, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>> -- 
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