Argggh. The trouble with this is I cannot easily have Boeing formally
endorse anything. I can say that Boeing gave technical support, because
they sent me. Hence, my suggestion of a very simple statement: (01)
'Co-sponsors' are organizations who are providing technical or funding
support, (02)
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicola Guarino [mailto:guarino@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:35 AM
To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER (03)
Mike's observations are correct, indeed. I myself was a bit confused by
these words. What about something like: (04)
'Co-sponsors' are organizations who endorse the purpose of this Summit,
by providing technical, funding, or dissemination support. (05)
Nicola (06)
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Uschold, Michael F wrote: (07)
> If everyone else prefers the given wording, then so be it.
> I think the last part undermines our cause.
>
> Adding the last sentence:
>
> 1. Is UNNECESSARY - anyone technically or financially supporting, can
> be assumed to, in some way, be supporting the purpose of the summit.
>
> 2. GIVES THE WRONG MESSAGE. The 'and/or' clause amounts to saying:
> "one of things some of the co-sponsors might be doing is endorsing
> the purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."
>
> That is an awful message to send.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> Cc: Upper Ontology Summit Organizing Committee
> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>
> Mike et al.,
>
> Just came out of the UOS Organization Committee meeting ... after
> reviewing the situation, it was finally adopted that we will use the (08)
> following definition:
>
> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who are providing technical or
> funding support, and/or endorsing the purpose of this Upper Ontology
> Summit."
>
> See discussion notes at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/
> OrganizingCo
> mmitteeMeeting_2006_03_02#nidKIM
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
> Peter P. Yim wrote Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:30:47 -0800:
>> Thank you, Mike.
>>
>> I'll bring this up at the UOS Organizing Committee conference call
>> this afternoon for a disposition.
>>
>> Regards. =ppy
>> --
>
>
>> Uschold, Michael F wrote Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:00:09 -0800:
>>> May I suggest a much simpler definition:
>>>
>>> Replace:
>>> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who would provide technical or
>>> funding support (which all of you are already doing), and/or
> endorsing
>>> the purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."
>>>
>>> With:
>>>
>>> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who that provide technical or
>>> funding support."
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Steve Ray [mailto:ray@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 02,
>>> 2006 10:28 AM
>>> To: 'Upper Ontology Summit convention'
>>> Subject: RE: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>> Even though we're also listed as co-organizers, why don't you go (09)
>>> ahead and list NIST as a co-sponsor as well. It may turn out to be a (010)
>>> who's who list, and I'd hate to be absent!
>
>
>> ======
>> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:08:23 -0800
>> From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>>
>> Re-stating the definition again (didn't clean it up enough in my last (011)
>> message):
>>
>> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who are providing technical or
>> funding support, and/or endorsing the purpose of this Upper Ontology
>> Summit effort."
>>
>> =ppy
>> =======
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> Yim
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:36 PM
>>> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
>>> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS co-sponsorship - NEED ANSWER
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Further to our uos-conveners telephone conversation today, we agreed (012)
>>> that this 'co-sponsorship' exercise needs everyone to opt-in before
> we
>>> will be moving them from the "candidate" to the "confirmed" list.
>>>
>>> We also committed to state clearly how we define 'co-sponsors'
>>> whenever we cite that list. Therefore, let me re-state the
>>> definition again,
>>> here:
>>>
>>> "'Co-sponsors' are organizations who would provide technical or
>>> funding support (which all of you are already doing), and/or
> endorsing
>>> the purpose of this Upper Ontology Summit effort."
>>>
>>> Ref:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit#nidIOJ
>>>
>>> So far, I have the following on the "confirmed" list:
>>>
>>> # the Applied Ontology journal (KLW)
>>> # Aritculate Software (AdamPease) (KDL)
>>> # Boeing (MichaelUschold) (KDO)
>>> # EPISTLE (European Process Industries STEP Technical Liaison
>>> Executive) (KLS)
>>> # CIM3 (PeterYim) (KIX)
>>> # ECOR - European Centre for Ontological Research (NicolaGuarino)
>
>>> (KDH)
>>> # IEEE Standard Upper Ontology Working Group - http://suo.ieee.org
>>> (JimSchoening) (KDZ)
>>> # NCOR - (US) National Center for Ontological Research (BarrySmith &
>>> MarkMusen) (IOY)
>>> # Shell (MatthewWest) (KDM)
>>> # University of Maryland College of Information Studies
>>> (DagobertSoergel) (KDS)
>>>
>>> and I still have the following organizations on the "candidate"
>>> list:
>>>
>>> # MITRE (LeoObrst) (KDI)
>>> # CNR Institute for Cognitive Sciences and Technologies / Laboratory
> of
>>> Applied Ontology (Trento & Rome) (NicolaGuarino & AldoGangemi)
> (KDJ)
>>> # Cycorp (DougLenat) (KDK)
>>> # IBM (ChrisWelty) (KDN)
>>> # ISO 18629 Working Group (MichaelGruninger) (KE1)
>>> # Ontology Works (BillAndersen) (KDP)
>>> # University of Bremen (JohnBateman) (KDQ)
>>> # University of Toronto (MichaelGruninger) (KDR)
>>> # Texas A&M University (ChrisMenzel) (KDT)
>>> # University at Buffalo (BarrySmith) (KDU)
>>> # Stanford University (MarkMusen) (KDV)
>>> # EPA (BrandNiemann) (KDW)
>>> # National Center for Biomedical Ontology [cBio] (MarkMusen)
>>> (KDX)
>>> # DERI ? (DieterFensel .. Leo, please help confirm) # USC and/or ISI
> ?
>>> (JerryHobbs) # UMBC ? (SergeiNirenberg) # NSF ? (MariaZemankova ...
>>> please help confirm) # HITOP (MarcWine ... BrandNiemann please help
>>> confirm) # FEA-DRM ? (BrandNiemann please help confirm) # NIH and/or
> NCI
>>> and/or UMLS ?
>>> (MarkMusen please help confirm) # UBL ? (PeterYim please help
> confirm) #
>>> OASIS ? (PeterYim please help confirm)
>>>
>>> If you see your name in parenthesis against an organization, I need
> your
>>> help and support. Kindly get back to me (hopefully, before the end
>>> of this
>>> week):
>>>
>>> 1. if your organization can be listed as a 'co-sponsor' for UOS. I
>>> need either a "yes" (I hope) or a "no" answer to bring this to
>>> closure.
>>>
>>> 2. if the answer is "yes", please provide the exact way you want
>>> your organization's name worded -- this may possibly be broader or
> narrower
>>> than what we have listed now. (e.g. Mark might want "Stanford
>>> Medical Informatics" instead of "Stanford University" because the
>>> latter
> would
>>> probably take too long to clear, ... etc.)
>>>
>>> 3. if there are more institutional support that you can help round
> up,
>>> please help by seeking the same and providing their name. (e.g.
> Nicola
>>> and Mark came back and said we could list the "Applied Ontology"
> journal
>>> as a co-sponsor too, and that's just
>>> wonderful!)
>>>
>>> We need as many co-sponsors as we can! Your support will be really
>>> valuable and will be appreciated by all here.
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> --
>
>
>>> Peter P. Yim wrote Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:33:31 -0800:
>>>> As promoting the use and publicizing "upper ontologies" is one of
> the
>>>> main goals of this Upper Ontology Summit, we are hoping to get as
> many
>>>
>>>> organizations to endorse the effort as we can.
>>>>
>>>> To this end, the UOS Organizing Committee has designated the label
> of
>>>> 'Co-sponsors' for enlisting institutional support. 'Co-sponsors'
>>>> are
>
>>>> organizations who would provide technical or funding support (which (013)
>>>> all of you are already doing), and/or endorsing the purpose of this (014)
>>>> Upper Ontology Summit effort. No other 'cost' or requirement are
>>>> involved
>>> ...
>>>> other than everyone's good intentions.
>>>>
>>>> We are hoping we can include all the relevant organizations each
>>>> and
>
>>>> everyone of us (here on this [uos-convene] list) are directly
> involved
>>>
>>>> with to be a co-sponsor.
>>>>
>>>> I have compiled a draft list as follows (no particular order):
>>>>
>>>> # NCOR (BarrySmith & MarkMusen)
>>>> # ECOR (WernerCeusters & BarrySmith) # MITRE (LeoObrst &
>>>> PatCassidy) # CNR Institute for Cognitive Sciences and Technologies (015)
>>>> / Laboratory
>
>>>> of Applied Ontology (Trento & Rome) (NicolaGuarino & AldoGangemi) # (016)
>>>> Cycorp (DougLenat) # Aritculate Software (AdamPease) # Shell
>>>> (MatthewWest) # IBM (ChrisWelty) # Boeing (MichaelUschold) #
> Ontology
>>>> Works (BillAndersen) # University of Bremen (JohnBateman) #
> University
>>>
>>>> of Toronto (MichaelGruninger) # University of Maryland
>>>> (DagobertSoergel) # Texas A&M University (ChrisMenzel) # University
> at
>>>
>>>> Buffalo (BarrySmith) # Stanford University (MarkMusen) # EPA
>>>> (BrandNiemann) # National Center for Biomedical Ontology [cBio]
>>>> (MarkMusen) # IEEE P1600.1 SUO-WG (JimSchoening) # ISO 15926
>>>> Working
>
>>>> Group (MatthewWest) # ISO 18629 Working Group (MichaelGruninger) #
>>>> DERI ? (DieterFensel) # USC and/or ISI ? (JerryHobbs) # UMBC ?
>>>> (SergeiNirenberg) # NSF ? (MariaZemankova ... please help
>>>> confirm) #
>
>>>> HITOP (MarcWine ... BrandNiemann please help confirm) # FEA-DRM ?
>>>> (BrandNiemann please help confirm) # NIH and/or NCI and/or UMLS ?
>>>> (MarkMusen please help confirm) # UBL ? (PeterYim please help
> confirm)
>>>
>>>> # OASIS ? (PeterYim please help confirm)
>>>>
>>>> So far, I've got every organization there as a 'candidate' for now, (017)
>>>> and will hope to move them to the 'confirmed' co-sponsor list
> quickly
>>>> ... a latest version of this list will be updated and posted under:
>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit#nidIOJ
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have a few names with "?" behind them ... there are some
>>>> dependencies in these cases. Will the people cited with these names (018)
>>>> please help and work on them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would need to know, from everyone:
>>>>
>>>> 1. if they can't be or don't want to be listed as a 'co- sponsor',
>>>> or
>
>>>> would need some time to get clearance to do so.
>>>>
>>>> 2. if they want the co-sponsorship to be worded in a particular
>>>> way,
>
>>>> say to a broader or narrower organizational designation. (e.g. Mark (019)
>>>> might want "Stanford Medical Informatics" instead of "Stanford
>>> University"
>>>> because the latter would probably take too long to clear, ...
>>>> etc.)
>>>>
>>>> 3. if there are more institutional support that you can help round
> up,
>>>
>>>> please help by seeking the same and providing their name. (e.g.
> Nicola
>>>
>>>> and/or Mark may help get the Journal of Applied Ontology as a
>>>> co-sponsor, ... etc.)
>>>>
>>>> 4. Other comments or suggestions regarding this matter, and more
>>>> broadly on how we can improve on the promotional effort.
>>>>
>>>> Let's try to hear from everyone by end-of-day Tuesday 2/28 or by
>>>> the
>
>>>> time of our conference call (which Steve Ray is calling.) We need
>>>> to
>
>>>> get the list compiled as quickly as we can, so we could incorporate (020)
>>>> them into press releases, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>> --
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