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Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Jack Ring <jring7@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:01:15 -0700
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I have not been able to follow this in detail. Is this exercise intended to 
help illustrate federation? 
If so, I wonder why marriage is considered federation rather than fusion.
No wonder few engineers are ever asked for a second honeymoon. ;-)    (01)

On May 4, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Cory Casanave wrote:    (02)

> Doug,
> That was not actually the intent - the intent was to create a model of 
>marriage for federation that included the UE and other definitions.  The EU 
>definition is a subtype of the generic definition (which just asserts a set of 
>spouses).  Note then Christian Marriage which imposes more constraints.
> -Cory
> 
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>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of doug foxvog
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:23 PM
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>> 
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 16:13, Wartik, Steven P \"Steve\" wrote:
>>> That's up to you. What's your use case?
>> 
>>> You can make this as complicated as you like, but let's remember that
>>> the original challenge was to define marriage according to the EU.
>> 
>> In that case we need a document stating the EU definition of marriage.
>> 
>> It should be simple enough to create an ontology to fit the specification.
>> 
>>> ... If that's too
>>> broad, I personally will settle for a definition of marriage in Monaco.
>> 
>> FWIW, Monaco is not a member of the EU, so that does not necessarily fit the
>> bill.
>> 
>> -- doug f
>> 
>>> Isn't it John Sowa's paper on formal logic fallacies that says it's
>>> always best to start with a simple problem? Let's make the problem as
>>> simple as we need to in order to get something we agree on.
>>> 
>>> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
>>> Ring
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:46 PM
>>> To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The issue is: what does marriage signify? Government? Church? Mutual
>>> commitment? What?
>>> On May 2, 2012 1:53 PM, "Wartik, Steven P "Steve
>>> <swartik@xxxxxxx<mailto:swartik@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> I wouldn't say it's unclear. It's governed by law, right? If you live
>>> together for some number of years, you are entitled to have the state
>>> recognize you as married. The date and time may not be as precise as
>>> if you have a wedding ceremony but can nevertheless be established.
>>> (Okay, I'm not a lawyer, and that's probably not the exact legal
>>> definition.)
>>> 
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>>> On Behalf Of doug foxvog
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:46 AM
>>> To: Jack Ring
>>> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, April 30, 2012 20:44, Jack Ring wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Marriage is a situation in which a couple BECOMES married.")
>>> 
>>> That situation is the WeddingCeremony in the normal case.  In the case
>>> of a common-law marriage, the start of the situation is unclear.
>>> 
>>> -- doug foxvog
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:39 PM, doug foxvog wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Marriage is a situation in which a couple is married.")
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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