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Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

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From: "Wartik, Steven P \"Steve\"" <swartik@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:13:52 -0400
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That’s up to you. What’s your use case?

 

You can make this as complicated as you like, but let’s remember that the original challenge was to define marriage according to the EU. I appreciate Amanda’s explications of the meaning of common law marriage in the context of various US states, but I have no idea which if any are relevant. What does the EU say about common law marriage? If that’s too broad, I personally will settle for a definition of marriage in Monaco. Isn’t it John Sowa’s paper on formal logic fallacies that says it’s always best to start with a simple problem? Let’s make the problem as simple as we need to in order to get something we agree on.

 

From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Ring
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:46 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

 

The issue is: what does marriage signify? Government? Church? Mutual commitment? What?

On May 2, 2012 1:53 PM, "Wartik, Steven P "Steve <swartik@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I wouldn't say it's unclear. It's governed by law, right? If you live together for some number of years, you are entitled to have the state recognize you as married. The date and time may not be as precise as if you have a wedding ceremony but can nevertheless be established. (Okay, I'm not a lawyer, and that's probably not the exact legal definition.)

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From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of doug foxvog
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:46 AM
To: Jack Ring
Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

On Mon, April 30, 2012 20:44, Jack Ring wrote:

> Marriage is a situation in which a couple BECOMES married.")

That situation is the WeddingCeremony in the normal case.  In the case of a common-law marriage, the start of the situation is unclear.

-- doug foxvog

> On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:39 PM, doug foxvog wrote:

>> Marriage is a situation in which a couple is married.")




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