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Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

To: lavern@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:53:28 -0400
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Hi LaVern,

Perhaps interpretation of a law by means of decided cases ("case law") should also be on the list?

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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM, LaVern Pritchard <lavern@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some fodder for the model.

annulled marriage, arranged marriage, bigamous marriage, ceremonial
marriage, child marriage, civil marriage, consummated marriage,
corporate marriage, cultural marriage, deathbed marriage, foreign
marriage, forced marriage, gay marriage, incestuous marriage, invalid
marriage, morganatic marriage, open marriage, polygamous marriage,
pretended marriage, prohibited marriage, proxy marriage, putative
marriage, religious marriage, sham marriage, spiritual marriage,
traditional marriage, transgender marriage, underage marriage, unlawful
marriage, void marriage, voidable marriage

Legal concepts have a lot of dimensions and usually imprecise or
arguable boundaries. They're anchored not only in law but in the facts
that warrant application of a label and the range of labels to chose
from in characterizing those facts. We spend a lot of time in the legal
world arguing not only about proof but about labeling.

To quote that venerable legal treatise, Wikipedia, on Oliver Wendell Holmes:

"Profoundly influenced by his experience fighting in the American Civil
War, Holmes helped move American legal thinking away from formalism and
towards legal realism, as summed up in his maxim: 'The life of the law
has not been logic; it has been experience.'"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Wendell_Holmes,_Jr.

That hasn't changed. Everything in law and the practice of law has a
certain fluidity.

Best regards,
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On 5/3/2012 1:45 PM, Jack Ring wrote:
> The issue is: what does marriage signify? Government? Church? Mutual
> commitment? What?
>
> On May 2, 2012 1:53 PM, "Wartik, Steven P "Steve <swartik@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:swartik@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     I wouldn't say it's unclear. It's governed by law, right? If you
>     live together for some number of years, you are entitled to have the
>     state recognize you as married. The date and time may not be as
>     precise as if you have a wedding ceremony but can nevertheless be
>     established. (Okay, I'm not a lawyer, and that's probably not the
>     exact legal definition.)
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of doug
>     foxvog
>     Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:46 AM
>     To: Jack Ring
>     Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
>     Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge
>
>     On Mon, April 30, 2012 20:44, Jack Ring wrote:
>
>      > Marriage is a situation in which a couple BECOMES married.")
>
>     That situation is the WeddingCeremony in the normal case.  In the
>     case of a common-law marriage, the start of the situation is unclear.
>
>     -- doug foxvog
>>



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