Hi All, (01)
How honest does this pitch have to be ? Is it a salesman's pitch ? Can we
assume the boss has ever seen an ontology ? If he/she *has* ever seen one,
then words such as "smaller" and "more manageable" aren't going to wash. Is Cyc
small and manageable ? Sumo's pretty big too, and it's only supposed to be an
upper ontology. I haven't seen many small ontologies - at least not ones that
claimed to be any use. I think the "manageable" bit is going to be hard to
defend as well. (02)
I think it's a good pitch, but it's a whopper of a lie. No harm in that -
history tells us that those are the sales pitches that have worked in IT for
every new technology - "Use SOA, it'll get rid of your stovepipes", "Go
open-source, you don't need to buy any software !", "Go cloud computing, you
don't need to buy any software or hardware", "Artificial intelligence,
er...no...no...give me a minute...er...", etc. (03)
Isn't it more honest to say "The real world is complex and changing, you need a
solution that can cope with that complexity and adapt with the changes. That's
what ontology does for you". That way we're making no pretence that it's simple
or small, 'cos it isn't. And what's more, any solution that is simple or small
isn't going to solve any big problems in information management, IMHO. (04)
Ian (05)
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OK - so scratch that. (07)
"Ontology: Making Complexity Smaller and More Manageable" (08)
With acknowledgement that really difficult problems are in reasoning and
language understanding
and in some domains dealing with images and geometry also (09)
DEBORAH MACPHERSON, CSI CCS, AIA
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On 2/2/2011 1:55 PM, MacPherson, Deborah wrote:
> Change:
> The number of laws and legal concepts is relatively small and discrete.
> The complexity comes from the world.
>
> To - something like:
> Even if the number of concepts and rules in an ontology is relatively
> small and discrete, The purpose of ontological engineering is to manage
>complexity that comes from the world. (016)
That's not what I meant. (017)
I wasn't claiming that a small ontology can manage a huge complexity. (018)
I was just saying that we don't yet have methods that are capable of managing
that huge complexity, and that an ontology, by itself, won't help very much. (019)
The really difficult problems are in reasoning and language understanding. An
ontology can probably help, but we need to go far beyond the currently
available tools. (020)
John (021)
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