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From: "Rich Cooper" <metasemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 10:30:43 -0700
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Here is a TED talk by Dan Ariely who explains some of the reasons why we see different worlds:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y0w5EJC9o0

 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper,

Rich Cooper,

 

Chief Technology Officer,

MetaSemantics Corporation

MetaSemantics AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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On 7/6/2015 7:35 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:

> Of the 11 dimensions, we see only 3.5.  The rest we deduce based on

> complete lack of physical evidence about what is going on...

 

Yes.  That is the point of Peirce's pragmatism and fallibilism.

All science is fallible.

 

> We don't know that the effects are only submicroscopic...

 

There are certainly more facts that we don't know than the ones we do.  But scientists know that a huge number of facts about submicroscopic phenomena have effects that we observe at the macroscopic level.  In fact, *all* chemical reactions are the result of quantum-level interactions.

 

The empirical observations made by chemists (and the earlier

alchemists) were true as far as they went.  19th century chemists learned a large number of facts about the elements, how they interacted with each other, the atomic weights of the known elements, and even the periodic table of the elements.

 

In that regard, the chemists were *far ahead* of the physicists, many of whom were skeptical about the existence of atoms.  As late as the early 1900s, Ernst Mach refused to admit that atoms existed.

 

During the early 20th c, physicists used the facts discovered by chemists as guidelines for their theories about atoms.

Today, chemists use quantum mechanics to calculate how various molecules will react even before they synthesize them.

 

> Any attempt to whitewash that unknown is just "proof by emphatic

> assertion" that it doesn't matter, not real proof.

 

Fundamental principle:  Any fact on whose truth you are willing to bet your life is one for which your belief is very, very strong.

There are many such facts.  But you have no mathematical proof For any of them.

 

For example, do you drive a car?  Have you ever been a passenger in a car?  Every time you do, you are betting your life on

 

  1. Principles of physics, chemistry, electronics, and the competence

     of the many engineers and mechanics who use those principles to

     design, build, and maintain your car, the cars driven by other

     drivers, and the roads and bridges over which you drive.

 

  2. The competence of the other drivers to control their cars

     and not run into you (or at least your competence and the

     ability of your car and your driving skills to avoid them).

 

  3. The social habits and conventions of other drivers to stay in

     their lanes and not take too many risks in the way they drive

     and how they observe speed limits and conventions.

 

Just take an inventory of the actions in your daily life and the all the assumptions and beliefs on which you bet your life.

 

Have you ever flown in an airplane?  If so, you've bet your life on many facts about our planet, its geography, and how other people behave -- pilots, mechanics, air traffic controllers, etc.

 

The fact that we're all on the same planet is one that is worth pondering.  But it's irrational to doubt it.

 

John

 

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