Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context

[Steven Ericsson-Zenith <steven@xxxxxxx>]

Neither.

Steven

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Richard H. McCullough <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, here we go again.  Is your "meaning"
                transformations of sentences
                real things that sentences refer to
                other
Tell me about your "meaning".

 
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial

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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:12:02 -0700

From: steven@xxxxxxx
To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context

No. I am simply saying that you do not understand the term "meaning."

Ste ven

On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Richard H. McCullough <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So you're saying you don't understand English?
 
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial

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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 12:42:02 -0700
From: steven@xxxxxxx
To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: kr-language@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rslat imer@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context

No, you still don't have it. A translation has no more "meaning" than the original.

Steven

On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Richard H. McCullough <rhmccullough@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Pat, you said:

I have no idea what I would be disagreeing with (or not).
You still have not given your notation any semantics, 
so none of these displayed lines convey any content. 

I say: I've got it !
Every mKR proposition has an English translation.
The English translation is the meaning of the mKR proposition.
 
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial

> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context
> From: phayes@xxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:47:57 -0500
> CC: kr-language@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rslatimer@xxxxxxx
> To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rhmccullough@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2014, at 1:02 AM, Richard H. McCullough <rhmccullough@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Today I accepted my responsibility as a Knowledge Engineer,
> > I identified the mental context propositions.
> > Forgive me if I sound like your teacher, it's just easier for me
> > to express my ideas that way.
> >
> > Separating the physical context, dealing with metaphysics,
> > which asks the question: What exists?, is fairly easy.
> > My mK R version is
> > http://ContextKnowledgeSystems.org/physical.mkr.html
> > There are "physical" labels everywhere, which can be removed
> > if it's clear we are only concerned with the physical context.
> >

> > Next we come to the m ental context, dealing with epistemology,

> > which asks the question: How do we know?
> > The first part of constructing a mental context is also easy.
> > We have "mental" labels everywhere and
> > mental thing denotes physical thing;
> > But you have to face up to the question of whether mental things
> > are really physical when you look inside the mind.
> > My answer is yes, so my mKR version
> > http://ContextKnowledgeSystems.org/mental.mkr.html
> > contains subhierarchies like this:
> > physical entity:
> > /mental entity;
> > //percept;
> > //concept;
> > //...
> > /mental characteristic;
> > //...
> > /mental proposition;
> > //...
> >
> > I think the two most significant things in the mental context are
> >
> > Mind :: mental existent isdef mental entity, mental characteristic, mental proposition;
> >

> > which is my liter al definition of what a mind is, and

> >
> > Mind Body Identity :: me is I;
> >
> > where "I" is my physical self, and "me" is my mental self.
> >
> > I think I've got a reasonable mental context here.
> > If you disagree, speak up.
>
> I have no idea what I would be disagreeing with (or not). You still have not given your notation any semantics, so none of these displayed lines convey any content.
>
> Pat
>
> >
> > Dick McCullough
> > Context Knowledge Systems
> > mKR/mKE tutorial
> >
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