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Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context

To: Steven Ericsson-Zenith <steven@xxxxxxx>, "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: KR-language <kr-language@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Richard S. Latimer" <rslatimer@xxxxxxx>
From: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 12:06:38 -0700
Message-id: <COL129-W90BD1B04CF5D4F9F331E62AA570@xxxxxxx>
Apparently, I have not been using this notation often enough:

             mKE/mKR/mKB

The mKE program puts mKR propositions into the mKB knowledge base.
m and I are two units in mKB.

             me is I;

means that me is an alias of I.  i.e., they are the same unit.
me is viewed as the person inside the mind.
I is viewed as the person in the outside world.
But they are the same person.
 
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial


Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:32:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context
From: steven@xxxxxxx
To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: steven@xxxxxxx

Think it through. 

Generally, metaphysics refers to that which is beyond physics and matters of existence (asks "what exists") are ontology. You have not actually stated an epistemology (in my terms "what the world is and how we may speak of it"). These terminological errors we can tolerate if provided with clear enough definitions. 

However, the obvious contradiction is in your syntax between the separated physical and mental, me and I.

As I tried to allude to earlier, ask yourself what difference these syntactic constructions make - what can you do with them? I suspect nothing. Though, no doubt, you are self-satisfied when you look at them.

Regards,
Steven


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Richard H. McCullough <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Really, Steven ?
I don't see any observation.
Please share it.

Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:05:25 -0700
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] physical context and mental context
From: steven@xxxxxxx
To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: kr-language@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rslatimer@xxxxxxx



Well, ... I'll observe the obvious contradiction.

Steven


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Richard H. McCullough <rhmccullough@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Today I accepted my responsibility as a Knowledge Engineer,
I identified the mental context propositions.
Forgive me if I sound like your teacher, it's just easier for me
to express my ideas that way.

Separating the physical context, dealing with metaphysics,
which asks the question: What exists?, is fairly easy.
My mKR version is
   http://ContextKnowledgeSystems.org/physical.mkr.html
There are "physical" labels everywhere, which can be removed
if it's clear we are only concerned with the physical context.

Next we come to the mental context, dealing with epistemology,
which asks the question: How do we know?
The first part of constructing a mental context is also easy.
We have "mental" labels everywhere and
        mental thing denotes physical thing;
But you have to face up to the question of whether mental things
are really physical when you look inside the mind.
My answer is yes, so my mKR version
    http://ContextKnowledgeSystems.org/mental.mkr.html
contains subhierarchies like this:
    physical entity:
             /mental entity;
                       //percept;
                       //concept;
                       //...
            /mental characteristic;
                       //...
            /mental proposition;
                        //...

I think the two most significant things in the mental context are

       Mind ::  mental existent isdef mental entity, mental characteristic, mental proposition;

which is my literal definition of what a mind is, and

       Mind Body Identity ::  me is I;

where "I" is my physical self, and "me" is my mental self.

I think I've got a reasonable mental context here.
If you disagree, speak up.
 
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial


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