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Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited

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From: "Matthew West" <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:55:42 -0000
Message-id: <004401cef6a2$9868e870$c93ab950$@gmail.com>
Dear Eddie,
Personally, I do not think that uncontrolled natural language is reliably
computable, and one reason is the one you raise here, that what we say may
be inaccurate, ambiguous, or just plain nonsense.
Regards
Matthew    (01)

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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Cooper
Sent: 11 December 2013 18:40
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited    (02)

Dear Matthew,    (03)

Yes, but.  Words have meaning in context, though not always singular meaning
even in context.  Our ambiguity reflects the ambivalence we feel when we
commit a sentence as truth.  Its really the emotional mechanisms beneath the
words that drive that ambivalence, and the that in turn drives the ambiguity
as we express it.      (04)

When was the last time you were absolutely, 100% certain about the truth of
a long post you type here?  On every single issue, we have posters who
disagree with each other in details, but who have some degree of commonality
in our meanings.  Even about these abstractions related to ontology, we have
ambivalence that causes ambiguity.      (05)

-Rich    (06)

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2    (07)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew West
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:39 AM
To: '[ontolog-forum] '
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited    (08)

Dear Kingsley,
I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.
Words typically have multiple meanings, indeed just one meaning is rather
unusual. So you need a way to pick out which meaning you mean this time when
you are using it, especially when it is out of context.
A term has a single defined meaning within a defined context, so you have
some chance of knowing where you are. A good way to distinguish between
different possible meanings of a word is to add words to your term to
provide disambiguation.
Regards
Matthew    (09)

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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
Sent: 11 December 2013 13:12
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited    (010)

On 12/11/13 7:20 AM, Matthew West wrote:
> On 12/11/13 3:15 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>> >Dear Kingsley,
>> >I would say "term of one or more words" where
you have used "word".
>> >Regards
>> >Matthew
> Please provide an excerpt from the post to which
your suggestion applies.
> [MW>] You wrote on Google Plus (link in your
post below) The 
> connection between "Words" and HTTP URIs (which
are different kinds of
> identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when
attempting to understand 
> the principles outlined in +Tim Berners-Lee's
original Linked Data 
> meme. In this post, I am going express the
essence of the meme using 
> using "hyperlinked words" to aid comprehension.
Thanks!    (011)

Changed to:
The connection between words, phrases, and HTTP URIs (which are all
different *kinds* of identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when
attempting to understand the principles outlined in Tim Berners-Lee's
original Linked Data meme.    (012)

--     (013)

Regards,    (014)

Kingsley Idehen 
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