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Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:06:47 -0500
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On 12/11/13 8:39 AM, Matthew West wrote:
> Dear Kingsley,
> I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.
> Words typically have multiple meanings, indeed just one meaning is rather
> unusual.    (01)

I am not inferring that Words have a single meaning. I am implying that 
Words and Phrases denote things (entities). That's it.    (02)

"Kingsley Idehen" (a phrase comprised of two words) as the value of a 
<#name> relation claims the existence (in the claim makers mind-eye) of 
a foaf:Person entity type associated with the literals "Kingsley Idehen" :    (03)

[] <#name> "Kingsley Idehen" ;
    <#type> foaf:Person.    (04)

As far as I know every participant in a relation is denoted by some kind 
of identifier. Words and Phrases are identifiers, as far as I know.    (05)

> So you need a way to pick out which meaning you mean this time when
> you are using it, especially when it is out of context.    (06)

It isn't out of context. My post is about Linked Data  where the context 
is all about HTTP URIs and entity denotation.    (07)

> A term has a single defined meaning within a defined context, so you have
> some chance of knowing where you are. A good way to distinguish between
> different possible meanings of a word is to add words to your term to
> provide disambiguation.    (08)

That isn't what I am trying to convey in my post. My post, as stated 
above is simply about entity denotation patterns across two realms:    (09)

1. World Wide Web
2. The real-world (as some may call it) which isn't the World Wide Web 
where things are denoted using Words and Phrases.    (010)

> Regards
> Matthew
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
> Sent: 11 December 2013 13:12
> To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited
> On 12/11/13 7:20 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>> On 12/11/13 3:15 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>>>> Dear Kingsley,
>>>> I would say "term of one or more words" where you have used "word".
>>>> Regards
>>>> Matthew
>> Please provide an excerpt from the post to which your suggestion applies.
>> [MW>] You wrote on Google Plus (link in your post below) The
>> connection between "Words" and HTTP URIs (which are different kinds of
>> identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when attempting to understand
>> the principles outlined in +Tim Berners-Lee's original Linked Data
>> meme. In this post, I am going express the essence of the meme using
>> using "hyperlinked words" to aid comprehension.
> Thanks!
> Changed to:
> The connection between words, phrases, and HTTP URIs (which are all
> different *kinds* of identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when
> attempting to understand the principles outlined in Tim Berners-Lee's
> original Linked Data meme.
>    (011)

--     (012)

Regards,    (013)

Kingsley Idehen 
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
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LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen    (014)

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