On 12/11/13 10:35 AM, Matthew West wrote:
> Dear Kingsley,
> Even then, not all words denote something (unless you can tell me what "of"
> denotes) though I would agree some words do.
> Regards
> Matthew (01)
Matthew, (02)
As they say, a picture speaks a thousand words; thus, I created
illustrations of what I am referring to with regards to relations,
participating entities, and denotation using different types of
identifiers (Words or HTTP URIs) [1][2]. (03)
This is about inscription on a surface e.g., a Web document or a piece
of paper. I the inscriber has to give names to things as part of the
sentence construction process. My names may collide with others, but
such collisions can be reduced by the denotation mechanism I choose. (04)
Links: (05)
[1] http://bit.ly/18D29GZ -- relations where participating entities are
denoted using HTTP URIs.
[2] http://bit.ly/18UzaRG -- relations where the participating entities
are denoted using .
[3] http://bit.ly/WAJGCp -- how and why HTTP URI based global
identifiers work for the Web medium.
[4] http://bit.ly/15tk1Au -- HTTP URI duality and denotation as
exploited in the Linked Data realm. (06)
Kingsley
>
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> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited
>
> On 12/11/13 8:39 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>> Dear Kingsley,
>> I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.
>> Words typically have multiple meanings, indeed just one meaning is
>> rather unusual.
> I am not inferring that Words have a single meaning. I am implying that
> Words and Phrases denote things (entities). That's it.
>
> "Kingsley Idehen" (a phrase comprised of two words) as the value of a
> <#name> relation claims the existence (in the claim makers mind-eye) of a
> foaf:Person entity type associated with the literals "Kingsley Idehen" :
>
> [] <#name> "Kingsley Idehen" ;
> <#type> foaf:Person.
>
> As far as I know every participant in a relation is denoted by some kind of
> identifier. Words and Phrases are identifiers, as far as I know.
>
>
>> So you need a way to pick out which meaning you mean this time when
>> you are using it, especially when it is out of context.
> It isn't out of context. My post is about Linked Data where the context
> is all about HTTP URIs and entity denotation.
>
>> A term has a single defined meaning within a defined context, so you have
>> some chance of knowing where you are. A good way to distinguish between
>> different possible meanings of a word is to add words to your term to
>> provide disambiguation.
> That isn't what I am trying to convey in my post. My post, as stated
> above is simply about entity denotation patterns across two realms:
>
> 1. World Wide Web
> 2. The real-world (as some may call it) which isn't the World Wide Web
> where things are denoted using Words and Phrases.
>
> Kingsley
>> Regards
>> Matthew
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley
> Idehen
>> Sent: 11 December 2013 13:12
>> To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] LInked Data meme revisited
>>
>> On 12/11/13 7:20 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>>> On 12/11/13 3:15 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>>>>> Dear Kingsley,
>>>>> I would say "term of one or more words" where you have used "word".
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Matthew
>>> Please provide an excerpt from the post to which your suggestion applies.
>>> [MW>] You wrote on Google Plus (link in your post below) The
>>> connection between "Words" and HTTP URIs (which are different kinds of
>>> identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when attempting to understand
>>> the principles outlined in +Tim Berners-Lee's original Linked Data
>>> meme. In this post, I am going express the essence of the meme using
>>> using "hyperlinked words" to aid comprehension.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Changed to:
>> The connection between words, phrases, and HTTP URIs (which are all
>> different *kinds* of identifiers) is often lost or overlooked when
>> attempting to understand the principles outlined in Tim Berners-Lee's
>> original Linked Data meme.
>>
> (07)
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Regards, (09)
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