So you are saying that it isn't very good, it has
lots of holes, it isn't REALLY semantic, but it's
better than JCL? (01)
Why would a company (or individual) invest time
and energy to learn something that is only a
little better than JCL? (02)
The issue David raised, and has raised before, is
that language simply doesn't support global web
usage without a great deal of context to narrow
down the ambiguities of the many, many symbols. (03)
Pat's response seems to hold weight (it actually
is better than JCL), but is it good enough to
justify the investment? (04)
-Rich (05)
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] DBpedia as Tables
*and* Extensional &Intensional (07)
On Nov 29, 2013, at 8:53 AM, David Eddy
<deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: (08)
> John -
>
> On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:00 AM, John F Sowa wrote:
>
>> Those are two uses of metalanguage -- and a
metalanguage is Yet Another
>> Language (YAL). Every YAL needs semantics.
>
> As I'm sure you can tell, I'm not intimately
immersed in the details of RDF, OWL, etc.
Objective-C is my legacy language of the day.
>
>
> As far as I've been able to discern after 5+
years of wonderful MIT SemanticWeb meetings, the
dirty little secret of the SemanticWeb is there's
no semantics.
>
> Or-said slightly differently-the SemanticWeb has
put some new, implicit spin on the meaning of
"semantic."
>
> Or... SemWeb is no more semantic than any other
software language.
>
> Sooner or later someONE (that's a carbon based
life form, not silicon) will have to apply their
eyeballs, brain & contextual experience to the
fact that in one context YAL is John Sowa's "yet
another language" and in another context YAL means
"yttrium aluminum laser." (09)
Thats why RDF (et al) use IRIs rather than short
acronyms as identifiers. Maybe context variation
is still unavoidable, but it is far less of an
in-your-face issue when you are dealing with
identifiers like (010)
http://dbpedia.org/resource/YAL_(programming_langu
age)
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Boeing_YAL-1 (011)
Pat (012)
>
> If SemWeb is good at solving that-as far as I
can see unavoidable-contextual issue, I've yet to
see it.
>
>
> Could simply be I drove an 029 for too long.
>
> ____________________________
> David Eddy
> Babson Park, MA
>
> deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
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