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From: "doug foxvog" <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:06:36 -0500
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On Wed, November 28, 2012 08:29, Andries van Renssen wrote    (01)

> Separating NL vocabularies from Ontology terms is one option,
> but IMHO not the best one.    (02)

Since an ontology term should have only one meaning and an NL term
should normally have multiple meanings, separating them seems
to make sense, imho.    (03)

Computer programs do not operate using NL terms -- although COBOL
tried to look a little bit like it did.    (04)

> Creating a separate Ontologies language that only maps to NL terms
> unnecessarily isolates the ontology world from the application world.    (05)

What computer applications do you know of which internally operate
using NL terms?    (06)

> There are solutions to solve synonym and homonym management
> and use without such a separation.    (07)

... such as the Oxford English Dictionary.    (08)

-- doug f    (09)

> Andries
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM, doug foxvog < <mailto:doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> doug@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, November 22, 2012 16:59, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
>> Sure, Amanda, and that's why I (and we) advocate using natural
>> language vocabularies that are linked/mapped to ontologies.
> If you are referring to advocating the separation of NL vocabularies from
> ontology term names, we certainly agree.  The ontology needs to express
> an N-N mapping between NL terms and ontology terms.
>> This was a hard lesson
>> learned  (initially, by others, before my time) in the DoD in the early
>> 1990s, and that I personally experienced in the metadata wars of the
>> 2000s, where people will fight to the death to include their "words",
>> mistaking these for the concepts behind them.*    (010)

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