Dear Steve,
Of course OMG is just fine as the authoritative source for real etc as far
as UML is concerned. Just a shame there is not wider unification... (01)
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> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Ray
> Sent: 12 July 2012 18:05
> To: '[ontolog-forum] '
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] URIs [was: Truth]
>
> Kingsley,
> Here is an example where the URI also resolves to a URL:
>
> http://www.omg.org/spec/UML/20110701/PrimitiveTypes.xmi#Boolean
>
> However, my search is for an authoritative definition. Even in the example
> above, Boolean, Integer, Real, String and UnlimitedNatural are simply
> declared, but not rigorously defined. I'd like to be able to point to some
URI
> from my models where definitions are made.
>
> - Steve
>
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Idehen
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:55 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] URIs [was: Truth]
>
> On 7/12/12 12:48 PM, Steve Ray wrote:
> > Matthew,
> > ISO standards aren't very good at providing URIs. I was hoping to
> > hear some specific recommendations, such as:
> >
> > http://schema.omg.org/spec/UML/2.1/uml.xml:UnlimitedNatural
> > http://schema.omg.org/spec/UML/2.1/uml.xml:Boolean
>
> Both of those URIs 404. Are they supposed to be de-referenced?
>
> Kingsley
> >
> >
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> > From: Matthew West [mailto:dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:14 AM
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> > Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] URIs [was: Truth]
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> > Dear Ray,
> > Probably ISO.
> > Matthew
> >
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> >> Sent: 12 July 2012 17:05
> >> To: '[ontolog-forum] '
> >> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] URIs [was: Truth]
> >>
> >> Matthew,
> >> I completely agree with you, and would be interested to hear from
> > this
> >> group what they believe are authoritative URIs for common data types
> >> such
> > as:
> >> Float (or Real)
> >> Integer
> >> Boolean
> >> String
> >>
> >> And then, thoughts on the same for measured quantities such as:
> >>
> >> AbsoluteDateTime
> >> Duration
> >> (I'll stop here for now)
> >>
> >> - Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steven R. Ray, Ph.D.
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> >> West
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:37 AM
> >> To: doug@xxxxxxxxxx; '[ontolog-forum] '
> >> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] URIs [was: Truth]
> >>
> >> Dear Doug,
> >>
> >> I think this is an important point.
> >>
> >> DF> The more that people reuse existing URIs instead of inventing
> >> DF> their own,
> >> the
> >>> more utility the massive tuple stores can provide.
> >> MW: One of the things I try to promote is the idea of an
> >> authoritative
> > source,
> >> so not only are there relatively few URIs for the same thing, but
> >> there is
> > a
> >> natural preference for which one to use. So to cross threads, if we
> >> are looking for what URI to use to identify Ferrari 458 Italia, the
> >> one
> > Ferrari
> >> uses should be preferred, because they are clearly the authoritative
> > source.
> >> MW: This has the corollary that authoritative sources have the
> > responsibility
> >> to create URIs for the things they are responsible for.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
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