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From: "doug foxvog" <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] N-ary relationships and hypergraphs (01)
> Azamat,
>
> The first two pages of the reference chapter do not answer the question.
> You are charging $30 (US) for access to the rest of the chapter. (02)
The price is charged by the publishing house. Indeed, it's expansive, but I
have nothing to do with them, and, as to the contract, banned to distrubute
the book as a whole or its part. (03)
I
> suggest that either you share your answer with this forum with text in
> an email or if you don't have the time to distill an answer from the
> 20-page chapter, provide the PDF of the chapter for free to this forum.
>
> To answer Phil, another model for representing objects with n-ary
> substructure and relationships among such objects is reifying the
> objects in a language not restricted to binary relations. Semantic
> languages that do this include the LISP-structured KIF and CycL.
>
> Standard object-oriented programming languages (Java, C++, ...) also
> provide the capability.
>
> -- doug foxvog
>
> On Wed, November 16, 2011 13:15, AzamatAbdoullaev said:
>> On Monday, November 14, 2011 3:32 PM, Phil Murray wrote:
>> "Are there *any other *non-binary models for representing complex objects
>> [that is, objects with n-ary substructure] and relationships among those
>> complex objects???"
>>
>> See Chapter 6: "What Organizes the World: N-Relational Entities".
>>
>http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/reality-universal-ontology-knowledge-systems/28312
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Murray" <pcmurray2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:32 PM
>> Subject: [ontolog-forum] N-ary relationships and hypergraphs
>>
>>
>>> Although I am not an expert in knowledge representation, the current
>>> discussion of n-ary relations in representation of knowledge is very
>>> important to my interests. So I have several questions:
>>>
>>> *
>>> Are /hypergraphs /sufficiently well understood and accepted as a
>>> modeling tool for similar [n-ary] requirements?
>>> *
>>> Are there any tools that support creation and visualization of
>>> hypergraphs [from data]?
>>> *
>>> Gian Piero Zarri's /Representation and management of narrative
>>> information: Theoretical principles and implementation/ describes
>>> his Narrative Knowledge Representation Language (NKRL), an n-ary
>>> approach to representation of what I would call rhetorically
>>> coheren/t ///extended communications/./ (His
>>> well-researched discussion of "the n-ary problem" on pages 14-33 is
>>> particularly informative.) Are there *any other *non-binary models
>>> for representing complex objects [that is, objects with n-ary
>>> substructure] and relationships among those complex objects???
>>> *
>>> Are there any SW tools that *directly *support pointing to
>>> (reifying) an arbitrary set of nodes and/or edges?
>>> *
>>> And if this is not the right space to ask this and
>>> similar questions, where else would you suggest I look for answers?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Phil Murray
>>>
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