[ontolog-forum] Ontology is the structure and not process - who is corre

[Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>]

In August there was a Integrated Enterprise Architecture conference in London ..

Zachman's presentation said that following:

The Zachman Framework schema technically is an
ontology - a theory of the existence of a structured set
of essential components of an object for which explicit
_expression_ is necessary (is mandatory?) for designing,
operating and changing the object (the object being an
Enterprise, a department, a value chain, a "sliver," a
solution, a project, an airplane, a building, a bathtub or
whatever or whatever).
The Zachman Framework is NOT a methodology for
creating the implementation (an instantiation) of the object
(i.e. the Framework is an ontology, not a methodology).
A Framework is a STRUCTURE.
(A Structure DEFINES something.)
An Ontology is a theory of existance - what IS
An Ontology IS a Structure.
A Methodology is a PROCESS.
(A Process TRANSFORMS something.)
A Structure IS NOT A Process
A Process IS NOT a Structure. © 2008 John A. Zachman, Zachman

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In this group we started saying the same, but later on added on functionality and process too..   Dr. Leo Obrst presentation said that same..

Who is correct?   Are we or Zachman?

I am interested in knowing "What is Ontology anyways" again!




--- On Thu, 9/23/10, Rick Murphy <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Rick Murphy <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] language vs logic - ambiguity and startingwithdefinitions
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:28 PM

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 23:54 -0500, Christopher Menzel wrote:
> On 9/22/2010 8:23 PM, Rick Murphy wrote:
> > ...
> > Funny, I hope there were constructivists in the audience. Though it
> > should be noted that Church remained married to the same woman for 50
> > years!
> >
> > http://bit.ly/dqZeki
>
> Interesting that they didn't catch the error in the obit that
> characterizes Church's Thesis as a "discovery".
>
> > BTW - I browsed these two Church references [1], [2] and he uses the
> > term Concept, not Abstract Object. That's consistent with the argument
> > I've made for using the triangle to explain extents. Concepts exist in
> > our minds,
>
> Not for Church.

Ok, I guess I have some reading to do. I would appreciate your guidance
on what I should be reading. That Konyndyk recommendation a few years
ago was a good one!

Here are the reference materials from which I'm currently working:
[1],[2] Sorry. I forgot to include these is the last post.

1. http://www.ditext.com/church/nae.html
2. http://bit.ly/dnLE7C

> Chris Menzel
> 
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