Re: [ontolog-forum] language vs logic - ambiguity and startingwithdefini

[Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well,  I understand that we are defining terms and things.   But now and then we limit ourselves to re defining Objects etc in more traditional way Object Oriented way.  Objects and definition of Objects the way Ferenc has defined looks good, however it is limited to things that have physical form and attributes.   But Ontology and Semantic Analysis may have to address other things that may not have visible physical form but exists and have indirect form of attributes and / or  behavior.  Or we may be addressing the change of behavior.   For example, particular form of illness which is not an object by itself but functioning of certain physical or behavioral attributes and change in condition of existing physical behavior..   Semantic Analysis has to capture such things..



--- On Tue, 9/21/10, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] language vs logic - ambiguity and startingwithdefinitions
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 9:31 AM

On 9/21/2010 8:37 AM, Pavithra wrote:
> In this group sometimes we write about analysis ( description and
> describing the world in simple English),  Design ( modeling )  and
> programming languages, and creating programming languages  and meta
> environment in the same tone.
> That can be confusing..

Life is confusing.  When they're working within the paradigms of
a particular specialty, scientists have the luxury of isolating
some aspect of life to study under controlled conditions.

But engineers have to apply science to the problems of dealing
with all the messy aspects of the real world.  They can't control
the conditions.  They have to build a bridge, dig a tunnel, or
drill an oil well under whatever conditions nature presents.
If necessary, they can modify those conditions, but only under
the constraints of budgets and deadlines.

This forum is addressing engineering problems that apply science
to problems of relating language, the world, and software systems.
We can't do much about changing language or the world, but we can
modify the conditions for designing, developing, and using software.

So that's what we're trying to do.  And it can get messy.

John


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