Paola, (01)
>*It references, among lots of other work, also Phenomenologie des Geistes,
>Hegel, (page 11) which is a 700 pages tome I found by chance around
>Christmas together with history of mathematics another 700 pages (santa
>klaus?) I had to leave them behind cause
>to heavy to carry (especially on camelback)
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Indeed. There are many good textbooks that cover both in a digested form (02)
> In German Geist translates both into Mind/Spirit
>making the translation of the title to English somehow a partial, possibly
>limiting, semantic choice (03)
The correct translation is "Spirit" and it had been well studied and
translated. I would not try reading the original as it is know to be one of the
most convoluted writings. But if you willing to follow the course of philosophy
in its original form, then you must read Kierkegaard's response to "Spirit" in
his "Stages". The two basically nehilate each other :-) (04)
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>On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Len Yabloko <lenyabloko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Paola,
>>
>> The very first line of this paper is arguably wrong:
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>> "Objectively, time does not pass, physics reveals no such phenomenon"
>>
>> I can agree that physics still lack a coherent theory of "time arrow". But
>> that does mean it "reveals no such phenomenon". There are sevral known
>> attempt to account for time in theoretical physics.
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time
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>> While writing this answer I had come accross this article
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>> http://www.temple.edu/psychology/overton/documents/ArrowTime_CycleTime.pdf
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>> --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> > From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: [ontolog-forum] correct Logical types
>> > To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:43 AM
>> > thanks to a link posted in another forum
>> > (thanks DM/TGL)
>> >
>> > i come across the notion of Logical Types
>> > specificaly interested in 'correct logical types
>> >
>> > I know it may be too far a philosophical push fror some on
>> > this list
>> >
>> >
>> > I am rushing around and dont have much time to
>> > study/discuss in depth
>> >
>> > i hope it is of interest, so posting for reference
>> >
>> >
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>http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00005073/01/Transtemporal_Phenomenal_Consciousness.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > proposes a systems thnking view of logical stances
>> >
>> > quasi random excerpts
>> >
>> > Relativity requires that we consider the dimension of time
>> > on a par with the spatial dimensions, thus making a block
>> > universe inevitable. The concept of change can be recovered
>> > by considering a sequence of definitions of the block
>> > universe, and thus the passage of time can be considered to
>> > be the change of this definition, resulting in a sequence of
>> > block universes as transtemporal reality
>> >
>> > ........
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 6 Logical Type
>> > In order to make the ideas more accessible I have described
>> > the process as one of experiencing, but this is the
>> > subjective perspective of the underlying phenomenon, the
>> > indexical change of the functional frame of reference, the
>> > exercise of the collapse dynamics, which is on this view an
>> > emergent property of the system as a whole. That the
>> > collapse dynamics is meta to the physical is at first a very
>> > counterintuitive idea, but this is what is required to give
>> > rise to a process of the correct logical type. Given that
>> > all of the moments exist in static array, iteration is
>> > required in order for there to be any transtemporal
>> > phenomena, and a transition through a succession of
>> > definitions of the linear dynamics is a process meta to the
>> > physical; the linear dynamics is the logical arrangement of
>> > interactions of the matter and energy in the spacetime of
>> > the universe, and the change to this layout is of a
>> > different logical type to the layout itself.
>> >
>> >
>> > ...
>> > .........
>> > What would be required is something that is to the moments
>> > as the projector is to the movie, something that contains
>> > all the moments and iterates the sequence. Clearly only the
>> > unitary system as a whole contains all the moments of any
>> > given sequence. Additionally, the only possible expression
>> > of the necessary logical type for an iterator is an emergent
>> > property of the system as a whole; only the system as a
>> > whole is of the correct logical type to change the
>> > functional frame of reference from one block universe to
>> > another, giving rise to the appearance of collapse described
>> > by Everett. Objectively this transtemporal process is the
>> > collapse dynamics, subjectively it is phenomenal
>> > consciousness passing through time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > end exerpts
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Paola Di Maio
>> > **************************************************
>> > “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take
>> > you everywhere.”
>> > Albert Einstein
>> > **************************************************
>> >
>> >
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