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>On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Len Yabloko <
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>> Paola,
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>> The very first line of this paper is arguably wrong:
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>> "Objectively, time does not pass, physics reveals no such phenomenon"
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>> I can agree that physics still lack a coherent theory of "time arrow". But
>> that does mean it "reveals no such phenomenon". There are sevral known
>> attempt to account for time in theoretical physics.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time
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>> While writing this answer I had come accross this article
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http://www.temple.edu/psychology/overton/documents/ArrowTime_CycleTime.pdf
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>> --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Paola Di Maio <
paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> > From: Paola Di Maio <
paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: [ontolog-forum] correct Logical types
>> > To: "[ontolog-forum]" <
ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:43 AM
>> > thanks to a link posted in another forum
>> > (thanks DM/TGL)
>> >
>> > i come across the notion of Logical Types
>> > specificaly interested in 'correct logical types
>> >
>> > I know it may be too far a philosophical push fror some on
>> > this list
>> >
>> >
>> > I am rushing around and dont have much time to
>> > study/discuss in depth
>> >
>> > i hope it is of interest, so posting for reference
>> >
>> >
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http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00005073/01/Transtemporal_Phenomenal_Consciousness.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > proposes a systems thnking view of logical stances
>> >
>> > quasi random excerpts
>> >
>> > Relativity requires that we consider the dimension of time
>> > on a par with the spatial dimensions, thus making a block
>> > universe inevitable. The concept of change can be recovered
>> > by considering a sequence of definitions of the block
>> > universe, and thus the passage of time can be considered to
>> > be the change of this definition, resulting in a sequence of
>> > block universes as transtemporal reality
>> >
>> > ........
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 6 Logical Type
>> > In order to make the ideas more accessible I have described
>> > the process as one of experiencing, but this is the
>> > subjective perspective of the underlying phenomenon, the
>> > indexical change of the functional frame of reference, the
>> > exercise of the collapse dynamics, which is on this view an
>> > emergent property of the system as a whole. That the
>> > collapse dynamics is meta to the physical is at first a very
>> > counterintuitive idea, but this is what is required to give
>> > rise to a process of the correct logical type. Given that
>> > all of the moments exist in static array, iteration is
>> > required in order for there to be any transtemporal
>> > phenomena, and a transition through a succession of
>> > definitions of the linear dynamics is a process meta to the
>> > physical; the linear dynamics is the logical arrangement of
>> > interactions of the matter and energy in the spacetime of
>> > the universe, and the change to this layout is of a
>> > different logical type to the layout itself.
>> >
>> >
>> > ...
>> > .........
>> > What would be required is something that is to the moments
>> > as the projector is to the movie, something that contains
>> > all the moments and iterates the sequence. Clearly only the
>> > unitary system as a whole contains all the moments of any
>> > given sequence. Additionally, the only possible _expression_
>> > of the necessary logical type for an iterator is an emergent
>> > property of the system as a whole; only the system as a
>> > whole is of the correct logical type to change the
>> > functional frame of reference from one block universe to
>> > another, giving rise to the appearance of collapse described
>> > by Everett. Objectively this transtemporal process is the
>> > collapse dynamics, subjectively it is phenomenal
>> > consciousness passing through time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > end exerpts
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Paola Di Maio
>> > **************************************************
>> > “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take
>> > you everywhere.”
>> > Albert Einstein
>> > **************************************************
>> >
>> >
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