Hi Chris (01)
>
> So your ontology contains relationships. (02)
and yours too.... (03)
> Do the dependency relationships (as relationships) also have some "logic
>they rely upon for their existence"?
> And is there an infinite regression or does this stop somewhere? (04)
I dont know, but as relationships are logical expressions
I cant see where this would stop, although I think there may be some
exceptions, I d have to think a bit (busy now)
> (05)
> The reason I ask is that I prefer an ontology where relationship only depend
> upon what they relate - without any need for a logic. (06)
any form of dependency is a relationship, thus relies on logic too
you may acnowledge that, or ignore that, and probably that would make
not much difference either (07)
> I am not sure how much this is a question of taste and 'de gustibus non est
> disputandum'. For me the simplicity of not needing the logic works. (08)
however, i agree that for simplicity you may chose not to
represent/express/expose some parts of the logic
in your ontology, although that might compromise some of the validity
and integrity of the ontology itself, imho (09)
you may be able to manage that partiality within a closed system (010)
and hay, this is a free world :-)
whatever works for you...... (011)
PDM (012)
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>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Matthew West
>> <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Dear Paola,
>> >
>> >> >I do not see how it gets you to saying ontology includes logic.
>> >>
>> >> It looks to me that logic is inherent, intrinsic to what there is,
>> >> therefore to ontology, as a description of it. I am not sure
>> >> 'includes' is the best way to say it, but surely, its part of the
>> glue
>> >> that builds the conceptual scaffolding
>> >
>> > [MW] This would be true if logic was the only possible formalism that
>> > ontology could be expressed in, but as I explained earlier it isn't.
>> At
>> > least category theory is an alternative.
>> >>
>> >> If you take out the logic that makes up the relationships between
>> all
>> >> the elements and components of an ontology, all we end up with is a
>> >> pile of conceptual scrap
>> >
>> > [MW] First, I don't think that is true, but if you take logic away
>> you have
>> > to consider what you are going to use to express what is commonly
>> expressed
>> > in logic, but there are other options than logic.
>> >
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