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Re: [ontolog-forum] Neuro-ontology, Onto-neurology, and the Semantic Web

To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Black <JohnBlack@xxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:08:15 -0700
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On 8/7/07 8:23 AM, "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:    (01)

>> Pat Hayes wrote:    (02)

> Its been familiar to AI and psychology
> (particularly Gibsonian psychologists) for 40
> years. This idea that computers must be doing
> numerical-style simulations in order to act in
> the world is a trope that only someone completely
> ignorant of actual AI work could possibly take
> seriously.     (03)

DN: Concur, however in the field of Computational Intelligence (CI), the
focus is shifted from that of AI.  Or am I errant in this assumption.    (04)

> Taken literally, that is clearly false. The brain
> doesn't have an internal *physical* model of all
> the things that brains can think about. No
> account like this can possibly account for the
> generality or the plasticity of neural
> functioning. 
> About which he knows virtually nothing. And, by
> the way, he does not claim that the cortex isn't
> performing computations at all: in fact, he gives
> a sketch of the IT process he thinks it is
> performing. His idea here is about 50 years old
> also, and has been investigated thoroughly, and
> is known to be incomplete or wrong.    (05)

Pat:    (06)

Thank you.  This sums up what I think we are all agreeing about nicely.  I
have not read the material in question but find myself in agreement with
your summary.  One day you should tell us how you *really* feel about this
book.    (07)

;-)    (08)

Duane    (09)

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