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Re: [ontolog-forum] Two ontologies that are inconsistent but both needed

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From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:54:25 +0200
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Chris Partridge wrote:
> VQ> What I
>> say is:  once you accept the distinction between continuants and
>> occurents, some of these definitions of avalanche speak of continuants,
>> some of occurrents.  So the question 'is an avalanche an occurrent or a
>> continuant' is ill-posed, since one does not know what you are asking
>> about -- the mass of snow or its falling.  Once you do *not* accept the
>> distinction, the question is even more ill-posed.
> If I am investigating what can be a continuant or an occurrent - can I not
> ask whether, when I am looking at an avalanche (whether there is any
> definition or not), it makes sense to talk of there being with a continuant
> or an occurrent or both - and how do I decide this. Say, for example, there
> cannot, in principle, be an avalanche occurrent, then it does not make sense
> for me to talk of one. What I would be interested in is some explanation of
> what these principles are.
> As Bill has noted, the question is not semantic, but metaphysical.    (01)

But of course.  But to decide how to distinguish whether an avalanche is 
an occurrent or a continuant -- the metaphysical criteria -- you need to 
  decide what it is that you call 'avalanche'.  My comment was related 
solely to the question whether an avalanche is a continuant or an 
occurrent;  it was not supposed to be a suggestion for a criterion for 
distinguishing ones from the others.    (02)

vQ    (03)

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