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Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Reality and Truth

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From: Ingvar Johansson <ingvar.johansson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:35 +0200
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paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx schrieb:
>
>      The problem is that it makes a
>     difference to me and my actions whether I (fallibly) think there
>     is no
>     God or whether I (fallibly) think there is a God.
>
>
> such as?
> In order to determine out whether something exists or not exists you 
> first have to know what it is
> right? when you think that 'it would make a difference', what are you 
> thinking of?    (01)

I am doing my best to think about something that a lot of people think 
they can unproblematically refer to by the name of God. Sometimes they 
describe this presumed being as being at once omniscient, omnipotent, 
and omingood with respect to the very world in which I am living, and 
then it seems to me as if I am thinking of a logical contradiction. When 
I don't bother about this oddity, it makes a difference to my life 
whether I behave according to the (formal or informal) rules prescribed 
by religion-of-kind-1, religion-of-kind-2, religion-of-kind-3, ..., 
religion-of-kind-n, atheism-of-kind-1, atheism-of-kind-2, ..., or 
atheism-of-kind-n. For various reasons, I have since long stopped 
thinking seriously about the religion alternatives.    (02)

>
> Maybe  you need to add a 'class' (superclass) to your belief system 
> then you would have to set up a method of enquiry
> could take a lifetime, or entire cycles of existence
>
> I have read all the literature that I have come across that I could 
> understand (just fragments of what exists), done a lot of practice and 
> have come to my own conclusions.  I guess you will have to do the same.    (03)

I have at least done much.    (04)

>
> Nobody can describe the taste and smell of things, you have to 
> experience by yourself if you want know it
> (free to all genuinely interested)    (05)

Have you experienced the smell of being an atheist that does not have to 
bow in front of an unknowable something?    (06)

>
> In the meantime, just to be on the safe side (you never know)....repent!    (07)

How do you know that your God doesn't like an honest atheist who tries 
to live a decent life better than a believer who believes and repents 
just for playing safe?    (08)

Ingvar    (09)

>
> (LOL)
> pdm
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Ingvar Johansson
IFOMIS, Saarland University
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