>Hay Pat, and all
>
>I personally dont think that the existence of God is a topic for this forum, (01)
I tend to agree. So I won't pursue this
potentially interesting thread. I was motivated
to defend Dawkins, who has (predictably) gotten a
very bad press, most of the criticism in which
completely misses his point. To suggest he should
study theology is like telling a literary critic
he should study font design. If Dawkins is right,
theology is (literally) the study of nothing. Why
would one concern oneself with such an empty
topic? (02)
But I promised not to get involved in this debate, so will say no more. (03)
Pat (04)
> at least not in
>speculative terms
>
>The Manifest Reality is challenging enough, and I dont think we are ready to
>tackle the Unmanifest, yet.
>
>However, I cant resist a good provocation....!
>I would be interested in how you came to such categorical conclusion
>
>Obviously there isn't a God (my own
>view is the very idea of God embedded in
>Christianity/Judaism/Islam is incoherent), so the
>fact that so many people believe there is, is
>something that needs to be explained.
>
>
>
>Have you considered the possibility that maybe you are overlooking something
>_-)
>
>As we said before on this thread, Reality exists
>irrespective of whether we observe it
>or not
>
>
>or that possibly, your instrument of observation
>of such phenomenon (your rational intellect, I
>presume) is not suitable to measure what you are
>trying to observe (we obviously dont know what
>we are looking for here, but I'd rather keep an
>open mind about what I dont know.
>
>Or maybe we just have different methods of enquiry?
>
>
>Religions are based dogmas, and are created by
>societies,(I agree, can be dangerous stuff)
>while spiritual growth and living by certain
>rules (honesty, truthfulness etc) is generally
>a very personal path
>
>you should try meditation!
>:-))
>
>Let's take this off list, shall we, or let's set up a proper study
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>PDM
>
>
>
>
>Dawkins
>makes a brave attempt to do this. Its nothing
>whatever to do with theology: its more a matter
>for evolutionary biology or social psychology.
>
>>(For anyone interested in the complexities of the issue I would suggest
>>"Does God Exist?" by Hans Küng as a starting point.)
>
>I find the arguments used there almost absurdly
>naive. What should I try next, do you think?
>
>Pat Hayes
>
>>
>>Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>>Perhaps it would be interesting to argue, chaining to previous
>>>discussions, that if *all* people suffer from a delusion, it is called
>>>'science'.
>>>
>>>vQ
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