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Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Re: OWL and lack of identifiers

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From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:01:04 +0200
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Pat Hayes wrote:
>> Reality doesn't exist in the absence of perspective.  Reality is
>> subjective, not objective.
> 
> Absolute nonsense. Reality existed for billions 
> of years before there was anything that could 
> form a subjective view of it. If, as seems quite 
> possible, this planet contains the only life 
> capable of having a subjective view, and our sun 
> goes nova and wipes us all out, the universe will 
> carry on being objectively real without noticing 
> our passing.
> 
>>  When people speak, they speak the truth if
>> they say what is real for them.
> 
> No. They speak the truth when what they say is in 
> fact the case, in the actual world.
> 
>> The *real* worlds are the worlds that
>> are real *for persons*.
> 
> No, the real world is the one that persons 
> inhabit and are part of. There is only one of it.     (01)

haven't you just said that logical semantics is a theory of truth?  what 
about the semantics of modal logics?  isn't it a theory of truth which 
consists of multiple, concurrent so-called 'possible worlds'?    (02)

vQ    (03)

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