Paola, (01)
> [PDM] The survey ... may benefit from further refinement (02)
[ppy] Yes, I agree (as exemplified by Mike Uschold's response, which
I just managed to respond to - ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2007-03/msg00042.html)
... we can use refinement. Wish we had more time to work this up. (03)
> [PDM] have we consulted user profiling experts
> in this community to make sure that we are asking
> the right questions and using the right words? (04)
[ppy] As mentioned earlier, we are NOT trying to do user profiling
with this survey. We want to find out what members of different
constituencies mean when they use the term "ontology" (or when they
use other ontology-related terms) ... etc. etc. (see details on the
survey. (05)
> [PDM] Is it too late to make a contribution there? (06)
[ppy] for the "Ontology Summit 2007" survey, I afraid it is too late
to change now. In fact, we are looking to get all the answers in a
week, and then get started on the analysis & synthesis of the
collected input. (07)
Thanks. I look forward to receiving your survey input. (08)
Regards. =ppy
-- (09)
On 3/17/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> HI Peter
>
> I have seen two or three posts going around (dont remember by whom)
> which seemed to imply that someone who has certain beliefs (whatever)
> or professional background,, or simply a different approach to reality
> and knowledge representation is not making a useful contribution to
> this forum. Obviously not everybody is interested in an open
> confrontation
> Freedom of expression must be protected in an open community.
>
> The survey is great, thanks a lot
> however I must say, it may benefit from further refinement - have we
> consulted user profiling experts in this community to make sure that
> we are asking the right questions and using the right words?
>
> It's extremely difficult to put a meaningful survey togethr in this
> field, as the survey may contain instrisic bias
>
> Is it too late to make a contribution there?
> or maybe next time? can we open a wiki page to make
> suggestions/improvements to the survey for futures?
>
> cheers
>
> Paola Di Maio (010)
> On 3/17/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:32:48 +0700:
> > > ...[snip]...
> > >
> > > This thread is starting to become very alienating to all those who
> > > really are not interested in this discussion, ...[snip]...
> > >
> > > Peter: I think we should start a polling tool and some user
> > > profiling for this group so we can determine whether this list
> > > is just for mathematicians to impose their view of the world
> > > onto others, or else indeed for people with different
> > > backgrounds and levels of interests in new technologies
> > >
> > > If it turns out the latter, then offensive' statements like the one
> > > below (and like the gorzonzola one earlier) and any attempt to
> > > restrict the discourse to a single, partial point of view should be
> > > moderated rigorously in the future
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Paola Di Maio
> >
> > [ppy] To All, Ontolog is an "open" community. The
> > [ontolog-forum] list is an un-moderated list. And, the only
> > 'articles of association' and 'by-law' we can go by is the
> > Ontolog Charter (see:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB) and
> > the Ontolog IPR Policy (see:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32). What
> > guides all of us (in this self-organizing virtual community
> > setting) in the engagement is our own personal choice and integrity.
> >
> > Both "formal ontology" and "informal ontology" discussions are
> > relevant to the Ontolog community (see Charter). I personally
> > learn a tremendous amount through these ongoing discourse, and
> > have no objective reason to suggest they stop, especially when
> > they are so relevant. Anyhow, we can all freely choose to
> > participate or ignore a particular discussion thread (one should
> > do the latter when it gets subjectively 'offensive').
> >
> > We are, in fact, doing some sort of polling, for the purpose of
> > the "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative[1], which I had just
> > posted. It's not for the reason you suggested, Paola, but I trust
> > this will be good for everyone. Therefore, rather than talking
> > about what should go into the public discourse, may I suggest
> > that we take a break (for a few minutes) and try to contribute to
> > that survey in our own privacy instead.
> >
> > Thanks & regards. =ppy
> >
> > P.S. [1] see: invitation to the "Ontology Summit 2007 Survey" at:
> >
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2007-03/msg00040.html
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