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Re: [ontolog-forum] Polling the community [was - Re: The Relation Betwee

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From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:21:49 +0700
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HI Peter    (01)

I have seen two or three posts going around  (dont remember by whom)
which seemed to imply that someone who has certain beliefs (whatever)
or professional background,, or simply a different approach to reality
and knowledge representation  is not making a useful contribution to
this forum. Obviously not everybody is interested in an open
confrontation
Freedom of expression must be protected in an open community.    (02)

The survey is great,  thanks a lot
however I must say, it may benefit from further refinement - have we
consulted user profiling experts in this community to make sure that
we are asking the right questions and using the right words?    (03)

It's extremely difficult to put a meaningful survey togethr in this
field, as the survey may contain instrisic bias    (04)

Is it too late to make a contribution there?
or maybe next time? can we open a wiki page to make
suggestions/improvements to the survey for futures?    (05)

cheers    (06)

Paola Di Maio    (07)



On 3/17/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:32:48 +0700:
> > ...[snip]...
> >
> > This thread is starting to become very alienating to all those who
> > really are not interested in this discussion, ...[snip]...
> >
> > Peter:  I think we should start a polling tool and some user
>  > profiling for this group so we can determine whether this list
>  > is just for mathematicians to impose their view of the world
>  > onto others, or else indeed for people with different
>  > backgrounds and levels of interests in  new technologies
> >
> > If it turns out the latter, then offensive' statements like the one
> > below (and like the gorzonzola one earlier)  and any attempt to
> > restrict the discourse to a single, partial point of view should be
> > moderated rigorously in the future
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Paola Di Maio
>
> [ppy]  To All, Ontolog is an "open" community. The
> [ontolog-forum] list is an un-moderated list. And, the only
> 'articles of association' and 'by-law' we can go by is the
> Ontolog Charter (see:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB) and
> the Ontolog IPR Policy (see:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32). What
> guides all of us (in this self-organizing virtual community
> setting) in the engagement is our own personal choice and integrity.
>
> Both "formal ontology" and "informal ontology" discussions are
> relevant to the Ontolog community (see Charter). I personally
> learn a tremendous amount through these ongoing discourse, and
> have no objective reason to suggest they stop, especially when
> they are so relevant. Anyhow, we can all freely choose to
> participate or ignore a particular discussion thread (one should
> do the latter when it gets subjectively 'offensive').
>
> We are, in fact, doing some sort of polling, for the purpose of
> the "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative[1], which I had just
> posted. It's not for the reason you suggested, Paola, but I trust
> this will be good for everyone. Therefore, rather than talking
> about what should go into the public discourse, may I suggest
> that we take a break (for a few minutes) and try to contribute to
> that survey in our own privacy instead.
>
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>
> P.S. [1] see: invitation to the "Ontology Summit 2007 Survey" at:
>
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2007-03/msg00040.html
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>
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Paola Di Maio
School of IT, MFU.ac.th
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"For as long as space and time endures
may I too abide to dispel misery and ignorance"    (010)

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