On Jan, at 10:24 Jan , Deborah MacPherson wrote:
> Why does it have to be a word? Why cant it be a drawing instead? An
> unlabeled map, or labels of ontology specific words could turn on
> and off.
>
> By drawing I mean the full extent of one universal view governed by
> one ontology. Another area, another ontology, a different drawing. (01)
I think it would be really cool if folks would reply by interleaving
their responses with relevant portions (only) of the messages they
are responding to. It's hard on list members to have to dig through
50, 100, 200 lines of unedited conversation (including multiple
copies of the list signature) to try to figure out what, in the
message being responded to, prompted the various parts of a "top-
posted" reply -- and it certainly dulls the luster of a nice, punchy
reply. I know Outlook (among other mailers) encourages top-posting,
and that it requires a little (or maybe even a lot) more time and
care to go against the grain, but I'd urge everyone, for the sake of
efficiency and civility, to avoid top-posting and to interleave their
replies. (02)
<OldUsenetJoke>
Answer: Because it interrupts the natural flow of a conversation.
Question: Why is it good not to top-post?
</OldUsenetJoke> (03)
Chris Menzel (04)
ps: Following included for illustrative purposes only: (05)
> On 1/19/07, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Facet
> >>
> >> Assembly
> >>
> >> Bound or Bounded
> >>
> >> Prime (as in an indivisible prime number)
> >>
> >> Set
> >>
> >> Totality
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> Resource
> >
> >er... what problem is being sorted out here? All of these
> >terms are already overloaded to the nth degree and
> >have non-overlapping meanings; as does
> >Aspect. If there was ever a good example of why ontology
> >can and should use an axiomatised formalisation
> >instead of natural language terms, then
> >I guess this is it! :-)
>
> I entirely agree. It is impossible to use a
> normal English word to express something
> technical without its being overloaded.
>
> I have another problem with this thread: I have
> no idea what, er, concept is being discussed.
> Charles said:
>
> ".... a universal, non-divisible idea. This "concept"
> when combined with others forms the definition of an entity."
>
> Wha?? First, what distinguishes "universal" ideas
> from (I presume) non-universal ones? Second, what
> does it mean for an idea to be "divisible"?
> Third, what kind of combination are we talking
> about? I would suggest (following Fodor) that the
> key idea here is not the things you are calling
> 'concepts', which in almost every detailed
> account that has ever been put forward turn out
> to be little more than nodes in a graph or points
> in a space, but rather the 'combinations' that
> they take part in, or rather still the
> *structure* of these combinations. It is the
> space (or maybe, the network, or the relational
> structure, or whatever one wants to call it)
> which matters and which gives the
> points/nodes/names/identifiers in it the
> "conceptual" structure that they have.
>
> Pat Hayes
>
> >
> >John B.
> >
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