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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology and Databases

To: "Arsic, Antoinette" <aarsic@xxxxxxxxx>
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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:10 -0500
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>I'm in desperate need of knowledge on how to move from an ontology to a
>data model or how to develop the two together - I'm in a position where
>we are developing the ontology and data model simutaneously (uggh),
>just because that is how it has to be.    (01)

Its impossible to answer this question because 
both 'data model' and 'ontology' are 
underspecified,and are often used in overlapping 
ways. Can you be a little more precise about 
exactly what you are trying to do, and in 
particular how you see the two activities as 
different?    (02)

Pat Hayes    (03)

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>Dear Colleagues,
>
>Following on from our lively and informative introductory
>session last week I would like to open up discussion about
>how we develop the programme, particularly with those who
>are part of the organizing committee for this strand.
>
>Some possible talks that people have offered are:
>
>- Moving from ontology to Data Model (myself)
>- Using ontology for data retrieval and HCI (Tatiana Malyuta)
>- Using ontology to improve data quality and ontology
>    reengineering from data (Chris Partridge)
>- Application Semantics via Business Rules in Open Vocabulary
>   (Adrian Walker)
>- Ontology mediation between databases (???)
>- Databases to hold ontologies - from simple catalogues to
>    First Order Logic. (???)
>
>Does this look good to you?
>
>Are there other topics?
>
>For topics without speakers, can you volunteer yourself or
>someone else?
>
>Another thing that came up in conversation with Peter Yim
>is the possibility of developing a page in Wikipaedia around
>this topic, if we felt we had something worth contributing.
>We would develop this in our own space first.
>
>What do you think about this as an idea?
>
>
>Regards
>
>Matthew West
>Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager
>Shell International Petroleum Company Limited
>Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
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