Matthew, Bill -
Does this wording avoid the potential misinterpretations you were
concerned with? (01)
(1) We agree that the technology of modeling and representing knowledge
has developed to the point where it makes possible the creation of
knowledge-based reasoning systems that significantly enhance the
capabilities of existing relational database systems and
object-oriented programming, to provide information analysis and
exploitation capabilities that cannot be realized with those
traditional systems alone. (02)
Pat (03)
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Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321
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Dear Pat, (06)
The way it reads at present (to me at least) is "Databases are dead,
KBR systems are going to blow them away". If you mean what you say
below then you need to include phrases like "extend the capability"
and "complementary" which I do not see in the current text. (07)
Regards (08)
Matthew (09)
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> Patrick J.
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>
>
> Mathew,
> Since the large ontology-based applications that will be useful
for
> major problems are likely to use relational databases (or their
> equivalent) as their back-end, what is the problem with
> saying that the
> capabilities of such systems are more advanced than the
> capabilities of
> database systems alone? They are indeed not "competing" but they are
> also not "complementary"; the larger ontology-based systems will
build
> on and extend the database systems.
>
> Pat
>
>
> Patrick Cassidy
> MITRE Corporation
> 260 Industrial Way
> Eatontown, NJ 07724
> Mail Stop: MNJE
> Phone: 732-578-6340
> Cell: 908-565-4053
> Fax: 732-578-6012
> Email: pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of West,
> Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:43 AM
> To: uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [uos-convene] KBR vs SQL
>
> Dear Ray,
>
> The first "conclusion in brief" is:
>
> "(1) We agree that the technology of modeling and representing
> knowledge has developed to the point where it is feasible to
> create knowledge-based reasoning systems with information
> analysis and exploitation capabilities significantly more
> advanced than traditional systems based on relational databases
> and object-oriented programming without semantic interpretation."
>
> Well I don't agree.
>
> Ontology can help improve the design of systems using traditional
> technology, and I can see Knowledge Based Applications adding
> significant value to those traditionally developed systems. I can
> also see some genuinely "the web as a database" type applications.
> However, I think it is inappropriate to compare in this way
> traditional systems (that are largely transaction processing
> based) and Knowledge Based Systems. They are complementary not
> competing technologies.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager
> Shell International Petroleum Company Limited
> Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
>
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