I agree with Mike. (01)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Uschold,
> Michael F
> Sent: 28 February 2006 01:51
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> Subject: RE: [uos-convene] Other Approaches Too.
>
>
> This statement is too strong, and I don't agree with it in its current
> form:
>
> "the use of some formally defined common upper ontology is
> essential for semantic interoperability."
>
> Replace 'essential' with 'helpful', and I'm on board.
>
> UOs can be a big help towards solving semantic interoperability, by
> making part of the problem go away. The whole problem [pretty
> much] goes
> away if everyone uses the same ontology.
>
> We get over lack of a common ontology by mapping between
> them, we can do
> the same thing for UOs, in principle.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schoening, James R C-E LCMC CIO/G6
> [mailto:James.Schoening@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:09 PM
> To: 'uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [uos-convene] Other Approaches Too.
>
> All,
>
> I agree with Steve Ray's statement in the draft communique,
>
> "We all agree the use of some formally defined common upper
> ontology is essential for semantic interoperability."
>
>
> I support exploring this new approach, but let's not dismiss other
> possible approaches, such as:
>
>
> 1. Major Leader Approach:
> a. A large player selects one CUO (after seeking input and
> consensus within an open forum)
> b. Its business partners use it and it spreads gobally
>
> 2. Consortium Leader Approach:
>
> a. A consortium of key players develop or select a CUO.
> b. It spreads globally
>
> 3. Market Momentum Approach
> a. Many players use different CUOs and the market eventually
> moves toward one of them.
>
> 4. Consensus Approach
> Open forum seeks to develop or select a CUO.
>
> My assessment of each:
>
> All approaches need more commercial success of basic system
> ontologies.
>
> #4 IEEE SUO WG (which I chaired) tried this but achieved little
> consensus, due in part to lack of utilization of the candidate upper
> ontologies, lack of pragmatic vendor participation, lack of market
> momentum toward any one candidate, and maybe just because there is no
> one correct upper ontology.
>
> #3 I don't see this happening any time soon. Stand-alone ontologies
> don't need and aren't using upper ontologies.
>
> #2. This could work, but only if the reach agreement and then use the
> CUO.
>
> #1. This could work, but again, only if the major player successfully
> uses the CUO.
>
> And I am anxious to learn more about the approach of this summit.
>
> Jim Schoening
>
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