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Re: [ontology-summit] Schema.org and COSMO

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From: David Price <dprice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:43:37 +0000
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On 13 Feb 2014, at 04:29, Patrick Cassidy <pat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ron,

[RW] >
If you google "schema.org" you get many examples of use among the 6
million results returned in 38 seconds.

      I have looked at a number of pages enthusing about how great it is,
with no links to actual usage.  Perhaps someone knows of a publicly
available real example of usage with details of the internal mechanisms, not
just use cases?   I mean the **program** that uses it, not just references
to sites that "use" it by marking up their pages using the schema.org
vocabulary.   It' nice that many people mark up their data in a similar
manner, but that doesn't help me understand the way that markup is processed
for practical purposes.

"This site provides a collection of schemas, i.e., html tags, that webmasters can use to markup their pages in ways recognized by major search providers."

The major using programs are Google, etc. search engines. Using programs also seem to include the code that runs the BBC Web site, for example based on a scan of the blog.  Things like GoodRelations seem to be integrated, so that use case is applicable to schema.org too.



[RW] >It looks like it is pretty easy to get into the weeds of using it but
perhaps
harder to join the organizations driving the process.


Aye! There's the rub!!!
Anyone know the contact information for one of the directors of the project
at Google, Microsoft, or Yahoo?

http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/SchemaDotOrgProposals -  Web Schemas is a W3C group used by the schema.org project to collaborate with the wider community.  Dan Brickley is the contact listed on that Wiki.
 
Cheers,
David


Pat


Patrick Cassidy
MICRA Inc.
cassidy@xxxxxxxxx
1-908-561-3416


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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Schema.org and COSMO

If you google "schema.org" you get many examples of use among the 6
million results returned in 38 seconds.

http://moz.com/blog/schema-examples has some sample websites that use
it. You might be able to talk to their webmasters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema.org has history and a few references

http://schema.org/docs/faq.html has some organizational questions
answered.

It looks like it is pretty easy to get into the weeds of using it but
perhaps
harder to join the organizations driving the process.

Ron


On 12/02/2014 11:49 AM, Patrick Cassidy wrote:
Kingsley,
   On the issue of where schema.org is used:

[KI] >Schema.org terms are extensively used right now, and the growth
has long
past the point of critical mass in regards to the World Wide Web
[1][2].


  I would like to get access to a functioning system that uses
schema.org so that I can see  **how** it is actually used (in all the
gory
detail) and
therefore how it might be improved.   The fact that Google uses it
doesn't
provide me with any *measure* of its utility.

   Do you know who actually controls application using it, so that we
can contact those persons directly?

Pat

Patrick Cassidy
MICRA Inc.
cassidy@xxxxxxxxx
1-908-561-3416





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