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Thanks Ron,
Taking the example 1c. of that schema.org document: <div itemscope itemtype ="http://schema.org/Movie"> <h1 itemprop="name">Avatar</h1> <span>Director: <span itemprop="director">James Cameron</span> (born August 16, 1954)</span> <span itemprop="genre">Science fiction</span> <a href="" itemprop="trailer">Trailer</a> </div> What I mean by RDF model of that information is the following turtle, assuming that the page having this <div> embedded in it has the URL http://server/page.html, so I expected this RDF for this resource: http://server/page.html a schema:Movie ; schema:name "Avatar" ; schema:director "James cameron" ; schema:genre "Science Fiction" ; schema:trailer <http://server/page/../movies/avatar-theartificial-trailer.html> . Having that data is kind of an index of such items one can process and analyze. Or maybe this: base:0001 a schema:item ; schema:type schema:Movie ; schema:url <http://server/page.html> ; schema:name "Avatar" ; schema:director "James cameron" ; schema:genre "Science Fiction" ; schema:trailer <http://server/page/../movies/avatar-theartificial-trailer.html> . etc. I assume that (for instance) schema:name is an owl:dataProperty in the "schema" ontology, schema:item is an owl:Class, etc. I may be wrong here, so any thoughts? Regards, Uri Shani, PhD Research Staff Member SPRINT(lead), DANSE (lead) Projects
From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Date: 13/02/2014 04:19 PM Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Schema.org and COSMO Sent by: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.schema.org/docs/gs.html has a nice example of how it works. Your program can call up a page on a web site and get back not only the nicely formatted text with the information presented in a way that humans can read it but also tagged information in the HTML that a program can parse easily to find data for subsequent use. Most often I suspect that you would not be incorporating it into a model but using the model in processing rules to further process the data that you now can find in web pages. If you had a stock trading program, I would expect that your model is static and you would be searching a stock quotation service to get prices and other trading information that would be included in the HTML to feed to your process which would use this data in conjunction with your model to create trading transactions. A BOM system could present orders to suppliers as links to HTML pages that the customer service manager or logistics clerk could view and that same page would also act as input into the suppliers ERP as an order. I suppose that you could create an ontology that was a series of web pages that people could read and machines could process. An interesting project! Getting nicely formatted terminology pages from the same page would make it easier to get people to read and use a model without impairing the ability of machines to read it. http://www.schema.org/docs/full.html lists the vocabulary available to describe the information on a page. Each type has a set of properties that can be used. I gather that this list will get longer as domain SMEs, ontologists and system analysts tackle new areas of interest. Ron On 13/02/2014 4:45 AM, Uri Shani wrote: Ron, Pat, [US]: I suppose a *program* would be some crawler that can extract this information from pages, taking them as a resource in an RDF model. That model would be a harvesting of semantic information, using the schema.org ontology (is there such thing? what is it?) from a site or group of sites. Can be a large data set, but the result can than be processed, reasoned about, analyzed, etc. Should be useful content. Thoughts? - Uri [RW] > >If you google "schema.org" you get many examples of use among the 6 >million results returned in 38 seconds. > I have looked at a number of pages enthusing about how great it is, with no links to actual usage. Perhaps someone knows of a publicly available real example of usage with details of the internal mechanisms, not just use cases? I mean the **program** that uses it, not just references to sites that "use" it by marking up their pages using the schema.org vocabulary. It' nice that many people mark up their data in a similar manner, but that doesn't help me understand the way that markup is processed for practical purposes. > [RW] >It looks like it is pretty easy to get into the weeds of using it but perhaps >harder to join the organizations driving the process. > Aye! There's the rub!!! Anyone know the contact information for one of the directors of the project at Google, Microsoft, or Yahoo? Pat Patrick Cassidy MICRA Inc. cassidy@xxxxxxxxx 1-908-561-3416 >-----Original Message----- >From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology- >summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Wheeler >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:26 PM >To: ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Schema.org and COSMO > >If you google "schema.org" you get many examples of use among the 6 >million results returned in 38 seconds. > >http://moz.com/blog/schema-examples has some sample websites that use >it. You might be able to talk to their webmasters > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema.org has history and a few references > >http://schema.org/docs/faq.html has some organizational questions >answered. > >It looks like it is pretty easy to get into the weeds of using it but perhaps >harder to join the organizations driving the process. > >Ron > > >On 12/02/2014 11:49 AM, Patrick Cassidy wrote: >> Kingsley, >> On the issue of where schema.org is used: >> >> [KI] >Schema.org terms are extensively used right now, and the growth >> has long >> >past the point of critical mass in regards to the World Wide Web [1][2]. >> > >> >> I would like to get access to a functioning system that uses >> schema.org so that I can see **how** it is actually used (in all the gory >detail) and >> therefore how it might be improved. The fact that Google uses it doesn't >> provide me with any *measure* of its utility. >> >> Do you know who actually controls application using it, so that we >> can contact those persons directly? >> >> Pat >> >> Patrick Cassidy >> MICRA Inc. >> cassidy@xxxxxxxxx >> 1-908-561-3416 >> >> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________________ >_______ >> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ >> Subscribe/Config: >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ >> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ >> Community Wiki: >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 >> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ >> > > >-- >Ron Wheeler >President >Artifact Software Inc >email: rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >skype: ronaldmwheeler >phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > >__________________________________________________________ >_______ >Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ >Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology- >summit/ >Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ >Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi- >bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 >Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ _________________________________________________________________ Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ _________________________________________________________________ Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 _________________________________________________________________ Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ _________________________________________________________________ Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2014/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ (01) | ||||
